Unexpected sad news

[ConcinusMan]

Yeah, well I was getting rodents from a childhood friend that owned a stable, pet store, and dog grooming business, for less than half the price of the 'gourmet' rodents.

She sold the property and moved the business. It's now just dog grooming. No rodents.

Still, most of my concinnus are primarily fish eaters. Only the anery's prefer rodents and even then, they like them unscented but they still eat trout and salmon. I like to give all my adults a fuzzy or two every month, even if I have to scent it. I guess my point is, I don't have a high need for rodents but I also don't like paying $2 each for a dang pinky or fuzzy.

[mustang]

aww that sucks you never find rodents where you want to.

[snakeman]

Store bought fish= dead snakes.Been happening on these boards left and right.Get them on rodents from a good supplier.

[snakeman]

rodentpro.buy 6 months worth at a time.you'll save money.

[ConcinusMan]

Store bought fish= dead snakes.Been happening on these boards left and right.Get them on rodents from a good supplier.

What?!!

Well then I guess I'm completely screwed. There are no "good suppliers" being how they primarily eat fish, mostly turn up their noses at silversides, and I'd have to travel very far for rodents or pay way more than I can afford.

There's been all this talk of tilapia, trout, salmon, etc. If not from a store, then where do I get the fish? pull it out of my... hat?

I'm not sure I buy the statement "Store bought fish= dead snakes".

For cryin out loud, I kept a pair that lived for 20 years on store bought fish (it wasn't even always "safe" fish), goldfish, wild caught fresh amphibians, I mean everything you all say is "bad" food.

[Spankenstyne]

I wonder if it could be a Tilapia issue? Maybe they aren't the safe species we think, or maybe there's a problem with some stocks of Tilapia? Didn't someone else mention having some problems with Tilapia before?
I also wonder even more about the source of the fish that people are having problems with, is it pre-packaged imported from Asia, South America, or domestic? I also wonder about the "silversides" being touted as it's a common name for many species, many of which are actually smelt which we know some species of are on the thiaminase lists.
"Store-bought" is a wide swath. We should be sharing as much detailed info as we can on these issues as it might be easier to narrow down to a particular species or supplier even.

[ConcinusMan]

It's not a thiaminase issue. I can guarantee that. The coho is locally wild caught, gutted and sent to the market and only sold if it's been dead less than 3 days for cryin' out loud! I don't know what else you expect. The only fish I recently started feeding (which is also wild-caught, or so they say) is the Tilapia. I still have plenty of the wild local coho,(kept frozen after I bought it) maybe I'll just stick with that as a precaution. Not much tilapia left anyway.

[Spankenstyne]

Yeah just throwing stuff out there, more thinking in general, there might be some problems with some fish, not so much thiaminase issues but perhaps some bad batches from elsewhere sort of thing. Possibly relating to certain species, potential toxins etc...

With more specific info like you've given we might be able to find something common with the possible causes of the problems.

I feed mine plenty of store bought trout & salmon and *knock wood* haven't had any issues with multiple litters being raised on it as well & plan on continuing to do so. It might also be a different sources thing, the fish I buy up here has all been wild caught or farmed & fresh before I cut & freeze it.
Certainly all store bought fish can't be the problem, but how many have had these issues & what specifically were they feeding? What species and/or brand names if applicable, and just any details at all that can possibly help narrow it down?

What you saw could also very well have not had anything to do with diet

[ConcinusMan]

rodentpro.buy 6 months worth at a time.you'll save money.

Only if I spend more than I have

6 months worth of mice for all my snakes wouldn't even come close to a very minimal order from Rodent Pro

[snakeman]

They tell you not to let your kids eat too much fish because of mercury levels and stuff like that.I would'nt risk it.Rodentpro doesnt have a minimum order.You can order as little as 2 bags.You pay 30 shipping but it is still cheaper than going to a pet store.