W.t.f

[drache]

I would sure hope that the "grab and bag as many as you can to sell for a quick buck" people are the exception rather than the rule, but I actually believe that they must be rampant in a state like Florida
some undercover agents uncovered a sizable ring of wild-life poachers/traffickers right here in NY where the laws are prohibitive, with actual consequences
I don't imagine folks who are into poaching hold back any when there are no laws against it
Florida also seems to have an abundance of businesses that import crappy wc herps from all over the world
there are also some reputable people in that state, but they do appear to be in the minority
yes - at some point they all do need to be collected if we want to establish cb populations, but I doubt very much that that's what people have in mind who just throw them into a bucket or bag and haul them off to a petshop or expo vendor for the cash
on the other hand - I would also never take my cb babies to a petshop for sale, so I am equally guilty of giving them no other option than to buy cheap poached lots

[kibakiba]

I cant believe anyone would do that. Honestly they do need to get a job, it doesn't matter how you rationalize it, their just doing it for the money. For people like me, yeah I took snakes from the wild, but I brought them in because I wanted to give them a better life. I didn't even THINK I could make money off them, not one cent It was never a plan for me. It doesn't matter if someone is a "professional" and makes sure not to over collect, there's no need to collect more snakes. Not at all. Maybe a few once in a while, as Richard said, to keep bloodlines strong. People who collect animals and stuff them all into little tanks to be sold make me SICK. I personally wouldn't take snakes from the wild unless I had the intent of giving them a home. Maybe that person should get put in an over crowded cage and see how it feels to be cramped and having to crawl all over everyone. Geeez.

Even if I were to sell, say the babies produced from Snakey and Mama, I wouldn't do it for profit, since anything I would have made would go to getting them more food, or a new tank... Ugh, I cant even wrap my head around why you'd do that to poor animals just to make money. I cant understand it. I came from a family that literally wanted nothing to do with money, you were happy with what you had, maybe that's why i don't get it but still. To me its abuse. I hate anyone who abuses animals for any reason at all, even if its low scale abuse. I need to go bang my head on a wall...

Maybe I'm overreacting a bit but that makes me more mad than.. Almost anything.

[ConcinusMan]

You're not overreacting at all. I think you are genuine and caring, and my values are yours. Dammit Chantel, stop making me like you so much.

[kibakiba]

Hah :P I'm not trying to be likable, I'm expressing my anger and disappointment in... Idiots. Lol. I really hate seeing animals being abused like that, it makes me want to take them all and give them a good home. I live in a small trailer-ish house and I cant fit more than a couple tanks anywhere. Of course, if I get another tank to put Runt in, I'm moving him into my room so I can watch his cuteness before I sleep And give more room to the adults.

[ConcinusMan]

Yeah, I didn't say you were trying to be likeable. You're being yourself an being genuine. Like I said, quit being so likeable! OK, nevermind. To be yourself is all that anyone can do.

I can see you're already talking about more tanks and this , and that. you're hooked. face it, you're one of us. Garter addicts!

We have meetings like other addicts, but it's all about getting our fix of garters. we don't want to quit!

[kibakiba]

I guess I'd need to schedule a GA (garters anonymous ) meeting.... Ugh but I want them all! Their lovable, cute, and... At least Mama lets me cuddle her... So she's cuddly, who knows what the others might be like I'm afraid that when she gives birth I'll just keep all the babies. I am addicted... Last month I almost bought a 75 gallon tank because I was planning on buying a Florida blue... Didn't work out in the end but Some day, some day.