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[ConcinusMan]

They may be classified as both being T. sirtalis but sirtalis' on the east coast are nothing like western sirtalis'. Now, pugets, concinnus, infernalis, those are very similar snakes.

[mustang]

hybrid=worthless mutt

with absolutely no predictible inheritance or phenotype pattern, very muddy genetics forever downstream. Just my oppinion.

like shannon said not worthless....just out of curiosoty isnt a hybrid considered "steril, unfertile, and not able to produce" i coulda sworn that the offspring cant reproduce....mules, ligers, and other known hybrid animals

[ConcinusMan]

Most hybrid snakes are fertile. Many of the hybrid corns and kingXmilk snakes on the market today were created by crossing species and generations so yeah, they're breeding hybrids to pure and hybrids to hybrids.

Thankfully the trend hasn't really caught on with garter snakes. There's enough variety and beautiful garters without muddying up the breeds.

[Jeff B]

like shannon said not worthless....just out of curiosoty isnt a hybrid considered "steril, unfertile, and not able to produce" i coulda sworn that the offspring cant reproduce....mules, ligers, and other known hybrid animals

Hybrids are worthless to any breeder with any long term plans or any breeder that wants to have any sense of control and be able to manipulate the desired outcome, or even to preserve the natural clean look of a normal wild type, not worthless because they are sterile. However I'm not saying they are worthless to someone who wants a pet like Shannon was eluding to.....however it never just ends there, it would be nice if they were always sterile, then one persons choice/actions wouldn't effect others in the hobby.

[infernalis]

Well said Jeff.

[mustang]

dang im learnn more everyday i thought all hybrids were sterile