Bob is at it again, and again, and again....

[bkhuff1s]

No just raising awareness.

[BUSHSNAKE]

awareness of what if you dont mind me asking?

[bkhuff1s]

For the newer people in the forum, the other side of the argument that's all

[BUSHSNAKE]

your green tree entered the hobby the same way Bob got his pickeringii in the garter pet trade

[bkhuff1s]

True, but I bought my GTP CBB when I could have bought them farmed, but I didn't.

I will spell it out for you. (that was harsh, I'd take it out, but it's already out there, and I'm not one to cover stuff up) I'm breeding these so buy a CB Puget Sound from me (a little self serving admittingly). My original pair is from Bob, this being the one that's pregnant.

I'm on your side about the having to take some from the wild to meet market demands. But I differ on the amounted needed, and I don't particularly like the idea of taking gravid adults from the wild. Hell if I disagreed with taking some of the snakes out of the wild, I'd have to throw my MBA I'm working on out the window.

[bkhuff1s]

I just wanted to say how hypocritical this conversation seems to be turning. It seems that what I'm hearing is it isn't ok to take snakes out of the wild but it is ok to take rare color colorations out. I'd just like to point out the fact that maybe just MAYBE having those snakes the pop out provides food for ANOTHER ANIMAL. Did anyone think that by taking all the rarely colored animals out of the wild that it'll produce the side effect of perhaps not feeding a preditor animal that would be looking for something that pops out at them. Furthermore, has anyone considered the fact that people eat snakes. Which isn't a common practice anymore. Perhaps when we take a few out of the wild it's like us catching them for food. Only the animal that blends in best survives. Survival of the fittest. Granted I don't think taking an endangered animal out of the wild is right either.

[bkhuff1s]

I posted that on another thread, I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm saying is that there are people breeding them. So think about the decision, before buying WC just because they are there, and admittingly cheaper, but it might come back to bite you with vet visits.

[BUSHSNAKE]

you should of purchased farmed animals then atleast you know your contributing to the current gene pool which is important. you cant keep breeding animals without increasing the gene pool. what got me is people were complaining about Bob AFTER they had purchased his animals and thats the problem with this hobby, people love to point fingers, what you gonna do when your initial breeding stock is done, keep breeding the siblings to each other, that no good either

[bkhuff1s]

Yawn, this can go on forever. My reasoning. I agree you need new gene's, but they can be introduced over time. You don't need over saturate the market the point where they are practically worthless though. No sense in doing that. Let the breeders do that, because otherwise people who enjoy breeding them, like me, will end up with clutches and nothing to do with them, because I can't sell them, and no place to release them, since I live in Missouri.

[bkhuff1s]

new GTP's are introduced into the gene pool, but you don't need to do it all at once.