catching wild garters health concerns

[toad772]

Well if I do get one it will probably be one I catch but I would like any info on importing CB garters(like how I would go about it and who I could get them from)

[gregmonsta]

So how long should I quarantine them for?(I was going on the idea of permanent quarantine cause they will be wild caught but if that is unnecessary then having them all in my room would be great)and how long does it take for a fecal to be done and what is a normal cost for that sort of thing.

Good practice would be to quaranteen a wc animal for a minimum of 6 months (my only store bought WC had 6 months and is currently still living seperately - ie another 6 months). You would want to do a fecal test within the first 2 weeks and then treat any parasites/flagellates/etc. After any treatment there would need to be another test to see if the animal was clear. A final fecal test should be done at the end too.
Best case scenario - you only have to do a fecal test at the start and finish.
Worst case scenario - you have to do several tests and one or two courses of treatment.
I can't comment on prices but .... regardless of it being a 'free' snake, if you don't have the experience/money ready for the worst case scenario then you might well end up spending more than you would for a CB snake.

Well if I do get one it will probably be one I catch but I would like any info on importing CB garters(like how I would go about it and who I could get them from)

Canadian breeder worth contacting - http://www.thamnophis.com/forum/member.php?u=67

Another who is currently investigating import -
http://www.thamnophis.com/forum/member.php?u=7770

[infernalis]

Doesn't Charles openly post that he gathers wild specimens??

[Spankenstyne]

Where in Canada are you toad772? There are a few Canadian breeders/sellers around. While I find the worth comment disturbing, I'm hoping it was just off the cuff regarding shipping costs. With an idea of what city or even province we might be able to steer you in the right direction.

[Spankenstyne]

Doesn't Charles openly post that he gathers wild specimens??

Yep. I believe it's primarily due to the restrictions of the province he lives in (some silly regs). I get the feeling he would happily buy CB if he was permitted to do so. Hopefully he'll see this thread and can comment

[toad772]

Where in Canada are you toad772? There are a few Canadian breeders/sellers around. While I find the worth comment disturbing, I'm hoping it was just off the cuff regarding shipping costs. With an idea of what city or even province we might be able to steer you in the right direction.

I am in New Brunswick

[gregmonsta]

Doesn't Charles openly post that he gathers wild specimens??

Yes, but he is experienced and provides good care ..... our new friend is a novice and totally unprepared for the possible problems a WC snake might throw up .... we haven't even brought up feeding problems/pregnant females or the like yet

[infernalis]

Here we go.....

http://www.thamnophis.com/forum/show...sturbing+trend

[charles parenteau]

Right on greg!!!
Toad here in Quebec the law said 10 Sirtalis sirtalis maximum including sirtalis pallidulus...but i know whatever is the subspecies don't exceed 10 thamnophis...the law is not the same in your city ,in your province..look your local laws.One thing for sure its illegal to sell thamnophis sirtalis sirtalis here in Quebec i think all over Canada!

but I dont think its a good idea to pick up 10 garter from the wild...
catch young age or year born garter snake if you can...never adult or gravid specimen especially if you begin in the garter snake world....Death rate are over 90% more 95%on year born baby for many reasons.That why adult are so important Next generation depend on adult snake.I prefer you to make a deal with me.

I will have babies eastern garter snake with nice colour .my female is gravid I expect over 30 babies in 2 months maximum....I think I can affort to give you Nice coloring gartersnake if you are wellin to pay the shipping...

[drache]

toad - that is a fantastic offer only a fool would turn down
but you do really need a massive attitude adjustment about the worth of garters
my least "valuable" garter is far more interesting to live with than the most pricey snake I own