Stefan's garters

[Stefan-A]

Stefan do you know what geographic area your stock originated from? I am just curious because of the vast variation in color the vagrans show. I go to three four different sites a year that have a very heavy vagrans population and all four are unique in color/pattern and average adult female size. All of the males seem to be in the same average range but the females vary quite a bit.

Beautiful girl by the way!

-Thomas

Absolutely no idea. The breeder said one of its parents came from Scott Felzer and the other is wildcaught. It differs in pattern from its sister, which I've noticed is quite similar to wandering garters I've seen in pictures from
South Saskatchewan River, Alberta. It's also a snail refuser.

[MasSalvaje]

Absolutely no idea. The breeder said one of its parents came from Scott Felzer and the other is wildcaught. It differs in pattern from its sister, which I've noticed is quite similar to wandering garters I've seen in pictures from
South Saskatchewan River, Alberta. It's also a snail refuser.

What about worms? I have yet to have any of mine take any worms.

-Thomas

[Stefan-A]

What about worms? I have yet to have any of mine take any worms.

Haven't tried worms in years, but last time I did, it refused them, too.

The male I have takes both worms and slugs without hesitation.

[Stefan-A]

Well, since Greg is doing it, I might as well do it, too
Anybody want to guess how long the pregnancy will be (in days, mating occurred on day 1) and how big the clutch (total live + stillborn + slugs + deformed) will be?

[gregmonsta]

I'm going to say day 78 .... 13 (lucky for some) healthy squiggles

[guidofatherof5]

93 days and 19 scrubs

[ConcinusMan]

Well, things tend to be too exciting the first time.

For whom? The snakes or the owner of the snakes?

Oh boy I can't wait. Snakey porn!

That's Snake pornographic material 2U

We could make it "right" and call it National pornogra... I mean, "National Geographic" or "Discovery Channel" material.

Well, since Greg is doing it, I might as well do it, too
Anybody want to guess how long the pregnancy will be (in days, mating occurred on day 1) and how big the clutch (total live + stillborn + slugs + deformed) will be?

You're kidding, right? # of fertilized eggs, temperature, [insert other factors here] oh wait. You did say "guess". That's all it is. You know, it just occurred to me. I never had a single slug with any garters over 20 years. A few stillborns and a few deformed (kinked) others that died shortly after birth, but no slugs. All yolks were attached to a formed neonate, dead or alive.

[Stefan-A]

For whom? The snakes or the owner of the snakes?

What does the context suggest?

[ConcinusMan]

Just thought I would offer another suggestion.

[ssssnakeluvr]

Absolutely no idea. The breeder said one of its parents came from Scott Felzer and the other is wildcaught. It differs in pattern from its sister, which I've noticed is quite similar to wandering garters I've seen in pictures from
South Saskatchewan River, Alberta. It's also a snail refuser.

Some of Scott's stock is from Utah...I sent him an adult pair years ago.
my Idaho wandering that I had when growing up ate tons of nighcrawlers!