Brumation of wild garters

[christop]

i happen to see somme on july.... I think sometimes in May.

[Frédérick]

selon la loi québécoise, tu as droit a 10 couleuvres rayées en captivité, plus que ca et ta besoin d'un permis...mais en gros ta ldroit daller en chercher 1 ou 2, si tu trouves un endroit ou elles sont présentes en abondance. j'irais faire un tour dans l'ouest de l'ile ou dans des boisés a Laval. jai remarqué que le best cest des piles de bois, ou tas de pierres, exposées au soleil en bordure de boisés, vas y tôt en journée et tu devrais en trouver au moins une qui se rechauffe au soleil.

[charles parenteau]

SSSSI jamais tu en capture fait pas le cave prend des bébés seulement parceque de toute maniere 98% des bébées meurt avant l'age adulte c'est pourquoi les adultes c'est pas touche!!!!

[charles parenteau]

Ca fait 20 en plus que j'ai des couleuvres J'ai appris a connaitre la patente et puis j'ai pas toujours agit de la bonne maniere j'en dois quelque unes a mere nature ...faut pas preleve des animaux comme ca ds nature tant qua le faire fait le intelligement !!!!
Regarde les bébé j'ai eu cette année ds mes anciens post et puis dit toi m'a avoir la meme chose cette année du meme couple si tout va bien et puis c'est free for all comprend tu faque toi et Christo vous aurai l'embaras du choix mais patience les gars!!!

[Stefan-A]

Could we get a translation, please? Not necessarily word-for-word, just so that we get the general idea.

[charles parenteau]

Federik tell about the law here in Quebec 10 garter maximum,I say its better to have one from someone like me than wild caught !ANd If he want to have wild one I told him its better to catch years born babies than adult!!!

I will have babies this years from the same adult they have to be patient and its free by the way...

[charles parenteau]

SOrry about our french!"!

[gregmonsta]

Something like ... if you collect from the wild collect babies if possible as they have a high death rate in general ... that collection wildcaught snakes could easily turn into a free for all and that if this is to be done it is to be done responsibly

Oooops .... lui deja fait une translation

[ConcinusMan]

Well then, I'd say that where are you are seeing them is very close to hibernation dens. Probably can find them in the spring in the same area for a week or two before they disperse.

@gregmonsta: I think one or more people would really have to go overboard and collect hundreds if not thousands to make a dent. A few collectors, a few snakes I would say would have no more impact than one hungry predator with a taste for snakes. Babies can be hard to find. In fact, I've NEVER found a wild concinnus baby. They've all been at least 16 inches, most have been larger. I do occasionally find baby ordinoides though at around 6 inches. Not hard to do considering there are 2 times of the year when they are born, and there's SO MANY of them!

SOrry about our french!"!

Yeah, yeah. votre de langue française est excusé. Just don't make it a habit.

[Stefan-A]

@gregmonsta: I think one or more people would really have to go overboard and collect hundreds if not thousands to make a dent. A few collectors, a few snakes I would say would have no more impact than one hungry predator with a taste for snakes. Babies can be hard to find. In fact, I've NEVER found a wild concinnus baby. They've all been at least 16 inches, most have been larger. I do occasionally find baby ordinoides though at around 6 inches. Not hard to do considering there are 2 times of the year when they are born, and there's SO MANY of them!

All of it adds up, though. Killing, collecting, traffic, construction, pets etc. Why contribute?

There is a IUCN red list for reptiles and amphibians in Europe, still waiting for one covering North America. But at least here, collecting is regarded one of the greatest threats and you over there seem a lot more keen on collecting wild snakes than people on my side of the pond.