Rhea's garters and the occasional other beast

[drache]

Is that one melanistic or just different? Are most valley garters that black?

Do you have a thread with pictures of the babies anywhere? I, tragically, don't have space for another garter, but I'd still love look.

don't know what the others look like, but mine have a pattern on top that's quite black, their bellies being a turquoisey slate with orange speckles at the tail end
they are also amazingly small and delicate for adults, and again - I have not sufficiently read up on the species to know whether that's representative, but even the female is small enough that I don't feel bad keeping the pair of them in a 10G tank for a while - very different from my comparatively massive parietalis

Do you have current pics of the flame from Tina?

I will work on that before I send the camera in (needs a cleaning urgently)

[ssssnakeluvr]

thats a normal valley garter. I used to have a female almost 36" long!! my females are around 24-26 inches at this time. their babies are similar in size to red spots, around 8 inches long when born. I had 2 females give birth to 16 babies!

[GarterGeek]

Thanks! Valley garters are now tied for number two on my garters-to-have-before-I-die-list. (Number one is oregon spotted, number three is black-necked)

[ssssnakeluvr]

well....I have good news!! I have a bunch of cb babies available!!!!!

[GarterGeek]

well....I have good news!! I have a bunch of cb babies available!!!!!

I wish I could, but I can't. Thanks though.

[GartersRock]

I will work on that before I send the camera in (needs a cleaning urgently)

Yay! I am curious to see how he looks.

[drache]

thats a normal valley garter. I used to have a female almost 36" long!! my females are around 24-26 inches at this time. their babies are similar in size to red spots, around 8 inches long when born. I had 2 females give birth to 16 babies!

so is 36" unusually large for them?
my female is a proven breeder, and I haven't measured her, but she seems smaller than my '08 florida blue female sirtalis - smaller than many of my males

Yay! I am curious to see how he looks.

okay - here's a quick one
and sorry - it's a bit blurry, so I'm not making it big
you're probably mostly interested in the colour, and I must say - in a close-up it's almost a bit too much



depending on your monitor he may appear a bit brighter than he is, but he's pretty damn red
that tail sticking out to the right belongs to another snake
he's still young, but I'm tempted to put him with a female to see what he does

[GarterGeek]

He's not really red - You just dipped him in ketchup!

[ssssnakeluvr]

36" is a rather large one, however a few years back a 48" female was found in the desert area in Idaho. I believe she was sent to Scott Felzer, but she passed away...that was a huge one. most of the females I have average around 24-26" next spring I will be looking for a couple Utah females....my Utah male is over 24" himself.

[GartersRock]

Awesome Rhea!! He looks just like my boy. I saw your baby in person before he shipped out and looked like my boy so I was curious to see if they still did. These are hot little snakes!