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    cross breeding?

    I have noticed several garters with similar patterns (or I just want to see em all checkered in appearance)

    I was wondering if there was commonalities with garters being able to cross breed with different subs of garters.

    Just a thought.

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    Re: cross breeding?

    I'm sure where their ranges cross there is some cross breeding amongst the different groups. I think I read something about that but don't recall the book. I'll try to find it when I have some free time.
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    Re: cross breeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamromhem View Post
    I have noticed several garters with similar patterns (or I just want to see em all checkered in appearance)

    I was wondering if there was commonalities with garters being able to cross breed with different subs of garters.

    Just a thought.
    doubt it...mine i thought was a cross between checkerd and blackneck but it isnt checkers can have blotches on neck too
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    Re: cross breeding?

    Hybrids are definately possible if thats what your asking. It may not have ever been proven but I'd think I'd be pretty safe to say all snakes in the genus Thamnophis(Garter and Ribbion Snakes) can interbreed. I'd also be willing to bet snakes in the genus Thamnophis can hybridnize with snakes in the genus Nerodia(Water Snakes), athough actaully getting two of these snakes to breed would be a lot more difficult.

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    Re: cross breeding?

    I might have to try some experimentation along the way :P I think a red checkered would be absolutely gorgeous.

    What do you think? :P

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    Re: cross breeding?

    The problem with breeding snakes from the same genus is the fact that a lot of them look similar to begin with. If you crossed them the babies could be mistaken for either species. Unless your crossing animals that don't look anything a like (color, pattern, shape, or size wise) go for it, I'm all for hybrids.

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    Re: cross breeding?

    In my personal opinion, creating hybrids is the most pointless thing anyone could do with their snakes.

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    Re: cross breeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Brewster320 View Post
    I'd also be willing to bet snakes in the genus Thamnophis can hybridnize with snakes in the genus Nerodia(Water Snakes), athough actaully getting two of these snakes to breed would be a lot more difficult.
    http://www.thamnophis.com/forum/gene...siblities.html

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    Re: cross breeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Stefan-A View Post
    In my personal opinion, creating hybrids is the most pointless thing anyone could do with their snakes.
    Agreed, don't want to end up polluting the CB bloodlines. There's just no need with garters. There are already so many species/subspecies/colour forms to choose from. The last thing I want to see is a morph overload in 'fashion' garters (equivalent to the madness in royal/corn morphs which has become extremely boring and simply ridiculous as far as money is concearned).
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    Re: cross breeding?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamromhem View Post
    I might have to try some experimentation along the way :P I think a red checkered would be absolutely gorgeous.

    What do you think? :P
    No .... no ..... and no! ... Not interested, never will be and you'll be hard pressed to find any serious garter keepers that would want one

    P.s. - Just get a 'high-red' parietalis! - ie Red with a checker pattern ... or a red-phase radix - ie Red with a checker pattern .... or a red terrestris - ie Red with a checker pattern .... or an erythristic eastern - ie Red with a checker pattern .... etc ...

    P.p.s. - couldn't ignore infernalis ...
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