expensive b-day

[Quibble]

All I asked was for help with an injured animal I recieved, and shes throwing a fit saying shes offended by my questioning the sex, origin, species and if they are parasitized.
It shouldnt hurt anyone to ask questions, and I never doubted the origin nor the species.
But Im not confident I can trust her to give me a full refund, I said nothing that would spark the frusteration she has with me.

I feel like I stepped on a land mine while chasing a butterfly!
Im sure you husbands out there know how I feel!

[TheArtist]

Out of curiosity, are you able to take Lumpy to see a vet? If a vet can tell you what's wrong with her and then proceed in helping you, you can ask the breeder to cover the vet fee of the snake, like a good breeder should... But at least that way you can find out just what it is and maybe be able to treat the snake for it? A breeder shouldn't get upset over simple questioning. But assuming she is a good breeder I still don't see any reason to get upset with a customer... Have you provided her with the images you took of lumpy's lump as proof? I could see a breeder maybe being upset if they thought you were trying to scam them, but if you provided the images of the snake then that should be accepted.

[Quibble]

Yes she has seen a picture already. She doesnt want me to take it to a vet as she doesnt believe I'll find a vet with enough experience to treat it properly. She wants Lumpy back and the others, and she will take care of any problems she thinks there may be.

Ill take lumpy to a vet with my own money if she doesnt start eating regularly, or if any more problems seem to arise with her.

[TheArtist]

Thats would probably be best. In the end it does come down to what you want to do with her! Keep updating us on Lumpy

[DrKate]

She doesnt want me to take it to a vet as she doesnt believe I'll find a vet with enough experience to treat it properly.

How close are you to the Mich State vet school? She couldn't really argue about lack of experience there. If you're not close, you could still call them - they probably keep a referral list of herp vets all over the state. Maybe she'd be satisfied with a herp vet that was recommended by the vet school?

[Quibble]

That, is an excellent suggestion! O_O I'll look for their number and try to call them monday. Maybe I can get some vet help/opinions without having to make an office visit just yet.

[Quibble]

A thread has been started @ fauna classifieds. An interesting debate indeed.

[TheArtist]

interesting conversation. Personally I see a bit of a over reaction on the breeders part in those emails and I see a customer apologizing for something they had every right to ask.

Assuming she's a good breeder, i'd say she's worried for the snakes. She said she's seen vets overdose and kill snakes, that could lead into a fear that you may take the snakes to a vet who would give them the wrong diagnose or over-dose them, evidently killing them. Therefore she could be worried that they will be killed. it sounds like they were good snakes that she liked a lot

Assuming she isn't such a great breeder it sounds like she is very angry that you 'apparently' questioned the origin, species, gender, etc and now she wants them all back ut of her frustration towards you, the paying and concerned customer. She also throws the fact that she's been in the business for a long time at you as if to say, well my reputation disproves that I would package a injured animal.

I believe that she didn't package the animal while it was injured or that it wasn't obvious at the time and maybe before more evident during shipping.
From the point of the breeder, if she saw you're post about using F-classifieds, she could interpret that as a threat, so i understand that part. If she saw that post she probably saw others, someone on here did saw something about wild caught, if she saw that she might think you're questioning origin.

Again personally, I've seen stuff like this happen before and I would not buy from her again nor would I send the animals back.

[Quibble]

Entirely agreed my friend. -nods-

[TheArtist]

So are you planning to breed her? I don't know a while lot about the genetics of snakes, but since the breeder didn't notice it, I think the spinal kink (if thats what it is) came after some time instead of being from birth so It may not be passed on to her young.