I'm sorry, Tim. I didn't even notice the 'Garter/Ribbon' in the title. I kept wondering why you were referring to ribbons... sorry... yes, I am blonde in case you're wondering. You're right, though, no ribbons in CA and I'm assuming he has the same kind of garter as I do, which is why I pointed him towards my pictures. Figured if he doesn't have pics he could at least compare them to my e. elegans. The CA herps page is awesome as well.