When will they be out?

[Squeaky10199]

Well there are butlers around here, around my school we have a butler thing where we have to save the ecosystem to let them gain numbers since they are endangered. I was told it could be a butler but if it was, i wasnt listening to the rules... HEhe I know they are illegal to have but no one has to know right?! Im not killing them or taking numbers of them home so it shouldnt be a problem, even though its still wrong. Hopefully when im older i can fufill my dream and be a wildlife ecologist and start breeding the endangered species... To bring back what was once there. I have a dream and hopefully it comes true. It is sick that people kill animals because they are venemous or a nussence.

[Stefan-A]

The pigmentation on the preocular, loreal, and postocular scales doesn't fit your standard butleri.

Of course I need to ask what standard you're going by. These signs haven't made it into any identification guide that I can think of. Those others, however, have.

The neck in the pic isn't decisive; I have pictures of easterns in similar positions with the same neck shape and form.

The four of them together are decisive.

[mtolypetsupply]

There are plenty of captive breeders on here, why take one from the wild when you can get a captive born one?

[Zephyr]

Of course I need to ask what standard you're going by. These signs haven't made it into any identification guide that I can think of. Those others, however, have.

The four of them together are decisive.

There are identification guides for garters that say they'll eat "small insects" as well. Doesn't mean it's definitive or not because it's in a book.

[Stefan-A]

There are identification guides for garters that say they'll eat "small insects" as well. Doesn't mean it's definitive or not because it's in a book.

Were those guides written by Rossman, Ford or Seigel?

[Sid]

Hey i live in South Milwaukee, WI and i live by a set of railroad tracks. By these railroad tracks is a small field that i always find garters. I have kept some in the past, but gave them to other herpists who wanted them. I dont know what kind they are, but i wanted to know when they come out of hibernation so i can catch a baby to keep since i love the the growing process in snakes and love to see the difference from baby to adult. I have two corn snakes and im ready for another snake. So when do they come out of hibernation? It has been getting warmer here, but really rainy and sometimes cold.Right now its in the 40's but when could i find the garters starting to come out of hibernation? Thanks for any help.

Just two days ago I spotted my first wild Garter of the year. Temp was 80 F that day. Upstate SC.

[guidofatherof5]

Just two days ago I spotted my first wild Garter of the year. Temp was 80 F that day. Upstate SC.

Rub it in, Sid.
Here in Iowa we had a wind chill of -9 this morning. Our snakes were out but you can't tell what kind they are since their wearing coat and ski masks.

[count dewclaw]

Woot! I just saw my first garter of Spring today! Not bad for central New York state. Of course, since they hibernate in the old stone foundation of my house it may warm up a bit sooner than some areas.

[jitami]

I'm jealous Sid and LeAnn

[Snake lover 3-25]

LUCKY!!!!!!!!!