When will they be out?

[Zephyr]

DEFINITELY a butler's or butler's x eastern.

[EdgyExoticReptiles]

looks like a butlers, kinda looks pickeringii but i dont think so

[Snake lover 3-25]

neat!!! (but aren't they illegal to catch/keep??)

[olive oil]

DEFINITELY a butler's or butler's x eastern.

That is what I was thinking Kyle. A butler's-eastern mix.

[Stefan-A]

Nothing really points to it being a mix of any kind.

[ssssnakeluvr]

looks like a butler's to me. as to whether they are illegal to catch/keep depends on what state you are in...I know they are protected in a state or two..don't remember which.
once the weather starts warming up and stays warm.....around april to may, they will be coming out. occasionally you will find one out during a warm day during the winter, but not very often.

[aSnakeLovinBabe]

that one's head and eyes are far too small and it totally lacks any sort of "neck" area... I'd say definitely not a sirtalis. The patterning is a little off as well. Man, I am just full of good news today!!!

[Zephyr]

Nothing really points to it being a mix of any kind.

Head shape, pattern and stripe rows, and lip markings. Not entirely butleri quality.
Could be a partial mix from somewhere down the road, especially if there was a population bottleneck at one point.

[Stefan-A]

Head shape, pattern and stripe rows, and lip markings.

No neck. Relatively little black pigment on supralabials. Stripe rows 2, 3 and lower part of 4. It all fits Butler's just fine.

[Zephyr]

The pigmentation on the preocular, loreal, and postocular scales doesn't fit your standard butleri. The neck in the pic isn't decisive; I have pictures of easterns in similar positions with the same neck shape and form.

However, there is supposed to be a substantial difference between butleri collected anywhere north of Ohio and those collected west of it.