radix sirtalis Q

[wolfpacksved]

I do not condone hybrid animals, but was curious as to what people thought about housing radix and sirtalis together. from what i have read, radix and sirtalis very rarely hybridize.

[infernalis]

As long as they are the same sex, I don't see a problem.

Mixed genders is just asking for that "rare" occurrence to happen.

We have a member here who housed a checkered and an eastern together, I have one of the offspring!

Better to be safe than sorry.

The more people I meet, the more I like snakes

I like that statement!

[Stefan-A]

from what i have read, radix and sirtalis very rarely hybridize.

Just out of curiosity, where did you read it?

[wolfpacksved]

thanks for the replies. The book was from the local university library and pretty in-depth. i will check it out again and post author, title, ect.. i know my radix is a F, not sure on the sirtalis. therefore, they will not be sharing space anytime soon. if i am not mistaken, the garter book discussed how butler's and plains do occasionally hybridize in Wisconsin.

[Stefan-A]

You wouldn't happen to remember the title or the author? Even a partial title would be great.

[wolfpacksved]

The garter snakes : evolution and ecology / by Douglas A. Rossman, Neil B. Ford, and Richard A. Seigel.

[Stefan-A]

I better reread it then.

[guidofatherof5]

Stefan,
Page 237 is what I think he's talking about.

[Stefan-A]

Can you quote the relevant parts for me? I don't have my book with me.

[guidofatherof5]

Taxonomic Comments: for T. Radix.

Since its description, the plains garter snake has not been confused with any other species, although A.GH.Smith(1949) believed that T.radix was conspecific with T.butleri and T. brachystoma, a position refuted by Conant(1950). the possibility that T.radix and T. butleri may hybridize where their ranges come in contact in southeastern Wisconsin has been suggested by Ford(pers comm.) and is currently being investigated by Rossman, Casper, Burhardt, and Good. Hybridization betwen T. radix and T. marcianus reportedly occurs in southwestern Kansas (H.M. Smith,1946), but it has not been confirmed.

From:"The Garter Snakes Evolution and Ecology by Douglas A. Rossman, Neil B. Ford and Richard A. Seigel

Hope this helps.