guess I left off the part about the vitamin supplements..... they aren't taking the salmon with vitamin powder on it real well. Charles Parenteau uses it with his snakes....no bones and stuff to digest, digests quicker so they can be fed more often and grow faster. I am still a fan of rodents for them...that diet has worked will for Scott Felzer for years..... will also have a couple holdbacks this year and feed them on this diet and see how they do! will have to keep everyone posted