I am really ticked off about how we ,the micro breeders,the back bone off the industry,get treated. I mean first off you buy a pair of reptiles from the local pet shop for say $50.00 each. You breed them raise the young bring them back to the shop and they offer you $5.00. Ok it's happened to us all but here's my point. They base this on the price they pay for some crappy wild caught stuff that came in to the whole saler in a 55 gallon drum marked garter snakes X 1000. I have seenthis with my own eyes. I was at my whole salers once and looked in the snake room and here is a 100 lot of eastern garters,yeh I think this will hit home,stuffed into a 10 gallon tank with 3 inchs of water in it and a glass top with a rock on top. Needless to say they were all wiggleing like made to try and stay on top and not drown. So you mean to tell me that the animals that you raised in a small batch and hand cared for one at a time are worth the same as one of those stressed out, prasite ridden,half dead animals. I DON"T THINK SO!!! But do you know why they do this and get away with it. Because we bought the stuff in the first place. We need to stop buying this crap and start to insist on captive bred animals. Now I'm not saying don't ever buy wild caught. We alway's need new blood and sometimes that's your only option but we can buy from importers that take the time to deworm and clean up the stock before they ship it out. You would not knowingly buy a puppy from a puppy mill would you? Then why is it that we buy are reptiles this way! Or maybe I could be worng. LET'S VENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!