Eyowwww turn away for ten seconds, and wham ten posts.....

James, too bad, I wish someone with credentials like that would study and follow those adder sisters around.

My thoughts about communal hides, Got me thinking, I have placed several sheets of plywood and some old road signs on the ground all over out near the meadow. I check these hides every day.

One sign way out back almost always had some kind of tiny little snake, a red belly, or DK sometimes a sub adult eastern. Then suddenly no snakes?? after about 5 days of no snakes, I discovered a colony of ants had begun taking over, Sweep off all the ants, move the sign to another location, and next morning SNAKE.

The hides that have the most slugs under them, also have the most DK and red bellies under them, coincidence?

Sometimes I will lift up a sheet of plywood, and there has been instance of finding Eastern Milks and Eastern Garters "together" Most likely neither felt any threat from the other, rather than any desire to be together.

When Garters breed in the wild, the survival of the fittest rule applies, sorry Gertie, but if big brother is the one that "makes it happen" then what that amounts to is that he wiggled the most in the breeding ball. (a wild snake orgy)

Dynamics of wild garter breeding should be it's own thread, so I won't even start rambling about that.