I was looking through the gallery and had a question or two. The "red phase" puget sounds, as far as I am aware, and population of pickeringii with any red anywhere in washington or oregon have either fitchi or concinnus influence. So those pictures as far as I can tell would not be pure pickeringii, but rather intergrades that have naturally occurred in the wild. great looking snakes but a bit misleading.

Secondly would be if we wanted to post some more pictures to better show variation, like more ordinoides morphs, and other stuff, what are the size restrictions, looks like everything is 600 or smaller? I have a few pictures that could help, and I can always take more...