Very nice looking snakes Shannon....I've always had a thing for bulls and pines. They've just got such an attitude to them and they're so pretty. Hey, you got these at Hamburg???? Didn't happen to see the Lancaster Herpetology Society table did you? I was manning the table from 1 'til close. We'll be at the March Hamburg as well, if you make it you'll have to stop by and say howdy.