so we recently came new owners of a few garters that someone did not want anymore. don't know where they got them but they did say they had them for a while. we went camping and when we got back we were surprised with a small litter of 10 new babies. from what i be leave is a coast garter. one of the other is a cal red and the other one i don't know what it in. has a green/brown look. i will post pics in the right part of the forum soon.