Because what I would like to do what I would like to figure out at some point is producing red radix that are het for both albino types and then possibly as a bonus the offspring of this pair could also produce Christmas as well. So using the PS calculator I'm trying to figure out how to get there. The other animal as pairs that would be cool to have in a collection (to me) would be a normal/wild type radix but was a multiple het animal that could produce both albino type along with anery and snow. So a powerhouse of an animal which when looking at the clutch it was just a rainbow of morphs in one litter. Don had an animal (Cariad??) she was/is the mascot of the forum, but she was an animal that as a normal/wild type she was het for multiple kinds of morphs. And what I always thought I saw in her (maybe just me) but if you go back in those threads and really look at her in the pics, you can almost see in her scales these little individual scales that are red, black, white, like she was telling you I unlock all this stuff. Now I'm rambling, but how did this snake come about? Was in purposeful line breeding of certain animals over years of projects (which of course it was) but knowingly, or dumb luck?