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    Re: New Ordinoides Photos

    I've never heard anything about northern pacific rattlers being present on the big Island. Seems like the wrong climate. However, they are in B.C. in a much drier climate. Just like eastern WA, except north of the U.S. border with WA State. Within their range in B.C. are the cities of Kamloops and Kelowna. I highly doubt they are on Vancouver Island. Northern pacific rattlers are generally a reclusive, non-aggressive snake. Injurous bites, or bites that actually inject venom, are rare. If and when they do bite, it's usually a "dry" bite, followed by a hasty retreat. They really are no threat to people who refrain from molesting or harassing them.

    I did find this info about T. sirtalis' in B.C.

    "Three subspecies of the Common Garter Snake are found in British Columbia. The Puget Sound Garter Snake (T. s. pickeringi) is found on Vancouver Island and in the lower mainland. The Valley Garter Snake (T. s. fitchi) is found across most of southern B.C. and along the northern coast almost to the Yukon. Finally, the Red-sided Garter Snake (T. s. parietalis) occurs in eastern B.C. towards the prairie provinces."

    I think that the only T. sirtalis you're going to find on the Island is T. s. pickeringii. Maybe there's a debate because many puget sound garters (pickeringii) look very much like T. s. fitchi or even T. s. concinnus.
    Last edited by ConcinusMan; 10-22-2012 at 03:04 PM.

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