Quote Originally Posted by snakeman View Post
I have fed hundreds of babies rosy reds.just cause you read it on this forum doesn't make it accurate.i would like to see one documented case where rosey reds caused death.
Here is a scientific study done at Cornell on the toxic effects of feeding thiaminase. The section on ruminants (livestock) deals with plants, but if you read to the bottom, there is a section dealing with a neurological disease found in mink and fox caused by high consumption of fish and shellfish. These effects are compounded in garters due to their smaller size. I don't believe everything I see on the internet either, but the dangers of thiaminase have been documented by both scientists and many experienced owners and breeders of garters.
Here's a link to the study:

Cornell University Department of Animal Science

Regardless, it's probably a safe bet that a guy who doesn't even know what sort of snake he's selling doesn't really know what he's doing.