Quote Originally Posted by ConcinnusMan View Post
OK, I just found the answer to the last question I asked. Both the flame gene and erythristc are co-dominant.

If that's the case, WTF are flame easterns so expensive? Breed one flame to another and you get flames. What's so hard about that?
Because even when you breed flame to flame, not all of the babies are screamers and there are different qualities in each type of flame. When you breed a flame to a normal your chances of producing a screamer are reduced and as you keep breeding flames to more normals you weaken the reds and oranges and over time they can become watered down. If you want top notch flames every breeding, the best way to go would be to pair up two really awesome flames, and even then your results vary greatly. And yes, a red plains actually is an erythristic plains. They are also born normal and grow into their red coloration! That's the thing with these red genes, even with flames, they are not one bit predictable. You just don't know what you are going to get with them! That is one thing that causes really nice erythristics to fetch high price tags. And technically, a flame garter snake is erythristic. Hyper-erythristic simply means increased red pigmentation. Flame is a totally different gene and gives off a totally different expression than other erythristic, mainly that they are born visibly red, but they are still erythristic nonetheless.

The pale concinnus you have been finding, if they still have hints of color could be considered Hypo-erythristic, because they have reduced amounts red, but are not 100% lacking it.