Hello from Oregon

[guidofatherof5]

Always in that order and the number of males and females are always listed, even when there are none confirmed.

Good point to bring up. 0.0.5

[Light of Dae]

I think they are all Northwestern Garters or T. Ordinoides... They show great polymorphisim within local areas and within the same litters sometimes.

[thamneil]

Welcome from a snowy Winnipeg!

The albino looks like a wandering garter snake to me. The others look like northwesterns to me! Nice to have you here.

[AlbinoSquiggle]

I kinda assumed the part about listing the number even if none are confirmed. I just couldn't figure out how someone would have 0.1 or a tenth of snake. LOL
From the pictures I had been finding I was guessing the brown snake with the yellow stripe was a Northwestern but I still don't know enough about identifying the sub groups so I didn't want to jump to any conclusions.
The other two I really had clue. I thought Gary may have been a checkered garter... :P

[ProXimuS]

I think they are all Northwestern Garters or T. Ordinoides... They show great polymorphisim within local areas and within the same litters sometimes.

I think I'll lean more n that direction. The one I was thinking of, that the middle one looked like was and ordinoides, not a pickeringii, like I thought for some reason

[BLUESIRTALIS]

They are all thamnophis ordinoides, and very nice looking ones too! I hope to add some to my collection in the future. I hope more albinos are produced in the future because of the polymorphism, lots of the albinos will look different. I think some could have the red stripes and red flecks in them which would look a lot like a hybino. They make awesome looking albinos! The albino you have looks like a t+ albino, but it's hard to tell what's going on with her she is very neat looking and you are very lucky to have such a snake.

[ProXimuS]

If this albino is an ordinoides, wouldn't that make it the first? Or at least the first known?

[guidofatherof5]

No, I believe 2 have been found in the last year. Both by people that joined the forum when they found them. 1 escaped and the other member hasn't been on in awhile. I think there may have been a third one found by a non-member.

Very rare snake even with those numbers.

[Invisible Snake]

If it is an albino ordinoides and it were bred with a melanistic would that produce a snow ordinoides?

[BLUESIRTALIS]

It's possible!

if it is an albino ordinoides and it were bred with a melanistic would that produce a snow ordinoides?