Is this what it looks like?

[Stefan-A]

Right, so breed the hybrid offspring back to a tetrataenia, and selectively breed the ones with the most favorable coloring. I'm not suggesting that merely cross breeding will solve all the problems in the first generation, or even that the results will be perfect...

Out of curiosity, have you seen multiple examples like the one above? I'm a bit curious if that is really what can be expected or if that is just one incident.

I have seen a few, but not many examples of tetra x infernalis hybrids. None of them have looked "right".

If we're going to start selective breeding for tetrataenia looks, why not start from pure infernalis? It's not like there's really a need to involve tetrataenia at all.

[infernalis]

I have seen a few, but not many examples of tetra x infernalis hybrids. None of them have looked "right".

If we're going to start selective breeding for tetrataenia looks, why not start from pure infernalis? It's not like there's really a need to involve tetrataenia at all.

Precicely, Infernalis is one handsome garter snake as is, crossing the two degrades both.

I claim no rights to this photo, so I left the links intact. Have a look at the gallery there, some great California herping photos, including wild tetras.


Mating, Thamnophis sirtalis infernalis; California Red-sided Garter Snake by vabbley, on Flickr

[Char361979]

I think I'd rather have one of those guys than a tetra based purely on looks. Glorious animals.

[RedSidedSPR]

Ya know, if i had the choice of a tetra or an infernalis i think I'd choose the infernalis. I just personally prefer their look.

[Stefan-A]

Ya know, if i had the choice of a tetra or an infernalis i think I'd choose the infernalis. I just personally prefer their look.

So would I, but that's just because I've found that the tetra I have, is the dumbest animal I've met so far.

[Char361979]

So would I, but that's just because I've found that the tetra I have, is the dumbest animal I've met so far.

Come meet my cousin's dog... bet it's dumber!! LOL.

[Stefan-A]

Come meet my cousin's dog... bet it's dumber!! LOL.

Does it frequently defecate in its favourite resting spot and does it lie on top of its own piles for days on end?

[infernalis]

Does it frequently defecate in its favourite resting spot and does it lie on top of its own piles for days on end?

That's just a shame.

[Stefan-A]

That's just a shame.

I sometimes have a feeling that it's not quite right in the head. You have to constantly make sure it's not lying in its own **** or doing something else that all my other snakes will avoid naturally. Yesterday I found it lying coiled up in its own **** in the humid hide, with the skin half shed.

Does anyone here watch Family Guy? Anyone remember the horse Peter brought home?

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[kibakiba]

Hah. Mama does that a lot... She coils up with her tail en over her head and poops on her self a lot... It's kind of funny, but unfortunate.