Catching Tadpoles?

[ConcinusMan]

With duck hunting season in the fall and ducklings being born in the spring, how is it that you arrived with hunter-orphaned ducklings?

Well, nobody said it was legal hunting. But I still have to wonder how one knows for sure that the ducklings in question, truly were orphaned? If I had a nickel for every time I've seen people pick up baby birds with the intention of "rescuing" them "because they were abandoned" when they really weren't...

I understand why it's a law, though I can't really say I apologize for taking a half-dead turtle from my dog, giving it a bit of neosporin, and feeding it from our garden for two weeks until it could walk again, ya know?

And I don't think anyone here feels you should apologize.

I've seen plenty of threads along the lines of 'saved this garter from my cat' where someone takes a wild animal and keeps it and gets nothing but praise. I have no issue with that (obviously) but it just seemed a bit unfair when the same law was broken in both cases, you know? I'm on the third day of no sleep and intense family drama, so I apologize if what I'm writing is of dubious logic.

Not questioning your motives or your actions at all. In fact, I would be one to pat you on the back and praise you when the outcome saves an animal. Just saying the actions of doing so isn't exactly legal and there's even a very good chance that in spite of saving an animal, you could end up doing more harm than good by interfering, depending on the circumstances.

I just think that for the most part, rescuing wildlife should be left to the people who are authorized to do so. If someone really did kill the parents of the ducklings, the best thing you could have done is call wildlife officials and report it, since ducklings are born outside hunting season, instead of taking it upon yourself to rescue the ducklings. It's a little different when you're talking about "my cat caught a garter snake" because quite frankly, they wouldn't bother with rehabilitating a garter snake so that pretty much leaves it up to you.

[Didymus20X6]

There's only one problem: it's so difficult for hunters to know whether it really is duck season when that blasted rabbit keeps holding up those signs.

[ConcinusMan]

[aSnakeLovinBabe]

Fish and game officials read forums.

and they don't care about small fry like us who saved a garter snake, a squirrel or some ducklings. I raised an orphaned squirrel last summer, after CALLING fish and game MYSELF, talking to an officer, telling them I had a baby squirrel and asking them what I should do with her since it's not legal to have a squirrel in PA, but that she was in need of immediate attention. I was basically given the "we will contact you back regarding this matter" and I never heard from them again. They had my full name, address and phone number. So I raised the darned thing and slowly transitioned her outside and she did just fine.

They know this kind of stuff goes on, they have bigger fish to fry. The whole argument of this thread originally was NOT the legal aspect, but the MORAL aspect... which I found strange considering multiple people on this forum have collected feeders from the wild for personal use... but suddenly it was taboo. The photos of Magma pigging out on newborn baby frogs on a floating log in a tank full of tadpole are still up on this forum from a thread in 2008. Magma wasn't even a starving baby that NEEDED the frogs and tadpoles like the blacknecks did, but I don't remember anyone jumping in to criticize how morally wrong it was. And I clearly remember you did not seem at all morally torn about it. I am not trying to argue with you Wayne, I am just pointing out that you yourself have done and probably still are doing what you are now making out to be such a terrible crime, and that you yourself KNOW it's not a terrible crime. Fish and game officials take issue with things in forums when people have a malicious intent... such as profit/smuggling/etc. They don't have the time, the manpower or the care to come after everyday folks who were just trying to help.

Seriously guys this thread should have died by now. And I don't understand why it hasn't. I thought that things were going back to normal with Joe's hilarous bit of trolling (being a MAJOR troll myself, he was, by all means, trolling, trolling does not necessarily mean you have malicious intent) Everyone who is dragging on with the whole "this is also illegal so it's not okay with me" spiel needs to just drop it... it was never an issue before and now suddenly on one thread, it is? Please examine your own life histories and if you have never crossed the law any which way I will just shut up and never post again! Is that what this forum is turning into? Let's adopt a new policy as a forum... we google the state laws when a newcomer comes to the forum with a garter snake they just saved from a cat and needs immediate help, instead of offering help we need to make sure we morally agree with everything and that it's entirely legal first? and then scold them for having the snake if it's questionable? I feel like if we followed the protocol that was used in this thread for all threads, that's what would happen. And our forum would be one heck of an unwelcoming place. Everyone would probably leave. But in theory, it would be the right thing to do..............................

[ConcinusMan]

Dangit Shannon. What a troll-kill. Just when we get everyone riled up again, you have to go and ruin it.

[aSnakeLovinBabe]

Dangit Shannon. What a troll-kill. Just when we get everyone riled up again, you have to go and ruin it.

well, I started typing that post hours ago. i was talking to Joe on the phone for a good hour and some and then just sat down after dinner now to finish it... not having caught up in the latest. But either way, I love trolling, and I love the trolls! But what I said, still needed to be said..... because in between the trolling there is a rather serious debate going on... but now y'all may go on back to the trolling! I have gotten what I needed to say off my chest and feel a good deal better. I was going to quote more than just Wayne's post, but I am too lazy/incompetent to keep it well organized..... so it probably looks like it's all directed at Wayne, but really, it's just an in-general statement aimed at everyone. I could have gone on all day... but no need. So I am hoping no one takes it personally.

[ConcinusMan]

Of course not. Speaking for myself anyway.

[infernalis]

So I am hoping no one takes it personally.

We have known each other a long time, nothing you could say at this point shy of telling me off or saying something to the order of "stay away from me" would really offend or upset me.

Friends be it personal or internet should be able to handle each others criticism without feeling insulted over it.

[aSnakeLovinBabe]

Of course not. Speaking for myself anyway.

to touch further on the trolling... I practically have a degree in it. I love to troll and I do it constantly both in real life and online

Not usually on this forum though, because either no one here would even get half of it and just write me off as a total weirdo/jerk, or I can't think of a way to do it and keep it G rated/not offend someone

[ConcinusMan]

no one here would even get half of it and just write me off as a total weirdo/jerk..

I don't get half of it, and I do think you're a weirdo. Just like the rest of the people I call my friends.