Scary Moment

[guidofatherof5]

thats interesting...i yell at checker not to poop on carpet/bed wherever i will let him crawl and afterweeks of it u know what i got him to do....nothing different but i noticed he lifts his tail up some before he poops and so now i slide my finger under there and walk him over to the comode then let him do it...

Sounds a little like my daughter Gabby. She's always shoving her hand under a snake butt. She always yells, "GROSS" but she keeps on doing it.
Funny thing, she doesn't do it to the 6.5 foot Hypo bull snakes She yells for me to come clean it up.

[mustang]

Sounds a little like my daughter Gabby. She's always shoving her hand under a snake butt. She always yells, "GROSS" but she keeps on doing it.
Funny thing, she doesn't do it to the 6.5 foot Hypo bull snakes She yells for me to come clean it up.

hah funny kid... least she knows where NOT to touch the big snake

[ConcinusMan]

Yesterday I built a new enclosure. It's another one of those 6'X2'X2'. With this one I put two partitions in it making it a triple enclosure. At one end I moved my water snakes. The center section I decided to put my new Mexican Black King. In the other end I put a group of babies from last year. I hadn't placed the King in it's enclosure yet but had it open while I put baby radixes in. Little did I know but during the transfer of babies one of them slipped into the King's enclosure. About 15 minutes after placing the King in it's enclosure I walked by to check on everyone. The King snake was in the process of swallowing the little radix. I was able to rescue the little one and she seem fine. Checking on her this morning she's operating normally.
I guess the King snake was just doing its thing. I'm glad I was there to save the little one.

I would have let the king have it. But that's just me. I used to occasionally treat my last CA king to a small ordinoides. It's not like there isn't enough to go around. It is possible to love them dearly AND occasionally use them as food for other snakes. You don't think I feel for those frozen pinkies and live adult mice I have to kill myself every week? Think again. But it must be done.

[guidofatherof5]

I would have let the king have it. But that's just me. I used to occasionally treat my last CA king to a small ordinoides. It's not like there isn't enough to go around. It is possible to love them dearly AND occasionally use them as food for other snakes. You don't think I feel for those frozen pinkies and live adult mice I have to kill myself every week? Think again. But it must be done.

To me there is a big difference between feeding pinkies and feeding off one of my snakes. My garters are not food supply. They are the reason I do what I do for them, whether there is an abundance of them or not. I don't think it's possible to love them and look at them as food. But that's just me.

[Scott F]

Nice save Steve, you know what they say, one kingsnake plus one kingsnake = one kingsnake.

[guidofatherof5]

Nice save Steve, you know what they say, one kingsnake plus one kingsnake = one kingsnake.

I've never heard that one before. Of course, King snakes are rather new for me.
I'll have to leave her light off at Halloween time. I'll have to start telling all me snakes scary stories about the snake that lives in there.

[ConcinusMan]

To me there is a big difference between feeding pinkies and feeding off one of my snakes. My garters are not food supply...

Oh, but they are. Maybe not YOUR garters, but they aren't really YOUR garters are they? And, there is no difference between them as a food supply and the mice. You might not see it, but it's the same thing. You might not see it, but it is possible to love the snakes and the mice, and accept the fact that they are food supply. No, I wouldn't intentionally raise garters as food. But then again, I wouldn't raise mice, cattle, or chickens as food either. The fact remains they are all 3 food for many creatures. Those creatures know who they are. It's God's way. It doesn't hurt my sense of empathy to see any of these animals used as food. I love them all equally. It's how they are treated when they are alive that matters to me.

But seriously if you can give your king a good-sized meal consisting of any reptile, and he'll take it, that's a good thing. Nothing is better for a kingsnake than another snake or lizard once in a while in addition to rodent food. You should be aware of that before you buy a king. Of course, they can live on just rodents too. Your call.

Breeding kings can be a tricky business. Housing them together otherwise will guarantee 1+1 kingsnake =1. Sometimes the smaller king will emerge victorious. and really fat.

[guidofatherof5]

This won't be something we will agree on so and I see no reason to continue a discussion on this matter. Moving on.

[ConcinusMan]

Fair enough.

[drache]

Nice save Steve, you know what they say, one kingsnake plus one kingsnake = one kingsnake.

breeding them is scary from hell
when the male gets excited he grabs the female by the neck - easy to get confused there