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    Re: A new visitor

    No, they were wrong, it's not venomous. But it could have been.

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    Sorry steve, guess we have to wait till tomorrow... I put a small box in the aquaruim and it is hiding inside it now. Maybe tomorrow it will go out, I will be there and take the pictures you askd for

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    Re: A new visitor

    Quote Originally Posted by Stefan-A View Post
    No, they were wrong, it's not venomous. But it could have been.
    I got the idea after checking this page
    Vipera palaestinae - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Re: A new visitor

    Can you find an area suitable to release it but away from people.
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    Re: A new visitor

    Quote Originally Posted by wadih View Post
    I got the idea after checking this page
    Vipera palaestinae - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Yes, but the one you found is a harmless snake, that defends itself by pretending to be a Palestine Viper.

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    Re: A new visitor

    Quote Originally Posted by Stefan-A View Post
    Yes, but the one you found is a harmless snake, that defends itself by pretending to be a Palestine Viper.
    ok got that, but the point confusing me is that how you knew it is a viper mimic not a real one... It looks very similar to the Palestine viper.

    Bare with me I am the new one here

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    Re: A new visitor

    Quote Originally Posted by wadih View Post
    ok got that, but the point confusing me is that how you knew it is a viper mimic not a real one... It looks very similar to the Palestine viper.

    Bare with me I am the new one here
    The eyes. This snake has round pupils. Vipers nearly always have narrow, vertical pupils, but colubrids almost always have round ones.

    There are some other signs as well, but they're harder to explain. The general appearance of it tells me it's not a viper.

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    Re: A new visitor

    Just read the link steve gave me:

    TrekNature | Hemorrhois nummifer (Coin Snake) Photo

    The last section indicate that it is a fake vipe

    "Attention: Pattern and coloration of this species, together with its behavioral displays, mimic the vipers, e.g., it forms a coil when approached, hisses loudly and rises its triangular head in an attack behavior. The local people mistake this species with Macrovipera lebetina (Levantine Viper), and thinking it as venomous, usually kill it. The local names “Batsalli” (“spotted”) and “Sagir Yilan” (“deaf snake”) are usually used for both of these species."

    Guess that is what you refered to...

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    Re: A new visitor

    Quote Originally Posted by Stefan-A View Post
    The eyes. This snake has round pupils. Vipers nearly always have narrow, vertical pupils, but colubrids almost always have round ones.
    Ok thanks again, I checked the picture on the net... the eye looks narrow. Then the one we have is a non-venomous snake after all.

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    Re: A new visitor

    I have to agree with stefan. Even though that snake looks very much like a viper there is no way that it is actually a viper. Again, it's the round pupil that gives it away. Your snake is harmless. It's up to you to decide if you can care for it properly, or if you even want to. Either way, take it some place where there is appropriate habitat, far from people if you release it. He'll be safer that way.

    Many harmless snakes in the U.S.A. get killed because they look like venomous snakes. Gopher snakes look like rattlesnakes and live in the same areas and so end up getting killed. Same goes for milk snakes and king snakes that live in the same areas as venomous coral snakes. I don't believe in killing any snake venomous or not, if it can be avoided safely. Good save. Your snake wouldn't have harmed anyone.

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