As you may have noticed...

[Calift]

I'm not saying to commit a crime and keep the snakes, but I certainly would have a tough time selling all of mine! Would anyone really know if you had thamnophis in your house? I doubt an officer is going to be able to id a snake, let alone care about garters....

But you have my sympathy and I'll keep an eye out for your ads (if you must cave and part with them )....

[jitami]

Wow, Brett, so sorry to hear this...

[drache]

Brett, I'm so sorry to hear this
you must be so bummed

[GarterGeek]

Thamnophis - A species!? How is it that we have people making laws about issues they don't know anything about?

I'm so sorry for you. You have my sympathy.

[Stefan-A]

Thamnophis - A species!? How is it that we have people making laws about issues they don't know anything about?

I recently heard a story about a monitor getting classified as a "venomous tree-climbing alligator", so...

The problem is global. No matter what country and political system, it's always the people with the least knowledge that get to make the laws.

[dashnu]

I have had several communications via phone & email with a couple of the guys at MIFW. One guy proved to be very helpful however he of course was the one with "no pull" so to say. He informed me that I was not allowed to keep anything from the genus Thamnophis.

I am able to apply for permits and tried for two types but like I said was even turned down a permit for educational reasons. I cant get any further with this without help from a lawyer and that is something i just can not afford now with this crap economy. The buzz around here is they will not even look at the permit unless it was sent from a layer.

In Maine we have a list of "Unrestricted Reptiles & Amphibains" if it is not listed on there it can not be keep without a permit. Simple as that species or genus.

[guidofatherof5]

Well, I won't be moving to Maine anytime soon.

[Stefan-A]

I have had several communications via phone & email with a couple of the guys at MIFW. One guy proved to be very helpful however he of course was the one with "no pull" so to say. He informed me that I was not allowed to keep anything from the genus Thamnophis.

I am able to apply for permits and tried for two types but like I said was even turned down a permit for educational reasons. I cant get any further with this without help from a lawyer and that is something i just can not afford now with this crap economy. The buzz around here is they will not even look at the permit unless it was sent from a layer.

In Maine we have a list of "Unrestricted Reptiles & Amphibains" if it is not listed on there it can not be keep without a permit. Simple as that species or genus.

It's a real shame.

[Snakers]

wow pointless..............absolutely im not much of a rule breaker myself and i know we want to set good examples for our kids but in this situation id keep them in my house somewhere safe its not like the government's going to be knocking on our door saying GIVE ME YOUR GARTER SNAKES!!!!but thats what i would do..................................

[dashnu]

wow pointless..............absolutely im not much of a rule breaker myself and i know we want to set good examples for our kids but in this situation id keep them in my house somewhere safe its not like the government's going to be knocking on our door saying GIVE ME YOUR GARTER SNAKES!!!!but thats what i would do..................................

I thought about this (and have been doing it for a few years now) but I am trying to start up a business and that business deals with reptiles and supplies. I do not want to put that at risk