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    Post Compaction Advice

    Since the passing of my girl Honda I have been thinking about what I could have done to catch any problems caused by the fur impaction she had.
    After removing the impaction she went off food for 7 days but then started eating again. She seemed to be hungrier then normal but I equated that to be off food due to impaction.
    Her feces were normal again but her vent was still a little dirty.
    This is the first time I have had to deal with post-impaction and wonder if there is some advice anyone can add to my "what to do" thoughts.
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    Re: Post Compaction Advice

    I'm not knowledgeable in this area, but perhaps soaking in warm water every day for a week and no food to make sure that every bit of impaction is gone.
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    Re: Post Compaction Advice

    Quote Originally Posted by kibakiba View Post
    I'm not knowledgeable in this area, but perhaps soaking in warm water every day for a week and no food to make sure that every bit of impaction is gone.
    Good idea Chantel.
    She was off food for a week.
    I let her eat when she was ready hoping that her body had told her to start eating again and the time was right for that.
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    Re: Post Compaction Advice

    With people we have the following concerns, besides not removing all of the impaction:

    *Can cause tissue to become damaged, ulcerated, or even necrotic.*

    Perhaps this was a contributing factor to her death.
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    Re: Post Compaction Advice

    Quote Originally Posted by Mommy2many View Post
    With people we have the following concerns, besides not removing all of the impaction:

    *Can cause tissue to become damaged, ulcerated, or even necrotic.*

    Perhaps this was a contributing factor to her death.
    That is what I think happened to her. Her gut went septic.
    I had no idea how old she was also. Old age may have contributed to this whole situation.
    I had two wonderful years with her.
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    Re: Post Compaction Advice

    Well, I meant another week after that. Or perhaps a small amount of liquidy food to soften.
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    Re: Post Compaction Advice

    You mentioned that she might be pretty old, and it got me to thinking cause-effect. Maybe, that she was old, caused some sort of malfunction in the digestion process that lead to the impaction in the first place? Maybe the impaction was a symptom of a larger problem, rather than the problem itself?

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    Re: Post Compaction Advice

    Quote Originally Posted by mb90078 View Post
    Maybe the impaction was a symptom of a larger problem, rather than the problem itself?
    Good point I think.

    A snake should be able to digist a mouse ... even with hair.
    Is the internal system so different from garters and cornsnakes?
    Because cornsnakes only eat mouse or rats and never had a problem with them.
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    Re: Post Compaction Advice

    To be honest, I don't have experience of bowel obstruction in snakes, but if it broadly equates impaction in other animals and people I don't think there is anything you didn't do that would have helped.

    I think Le Ann's point about the damaged intestines is most significant. If the impaction caused tissue damage it was likely to be a matter of time - either it would go septic, perforate, or just interupt the digestive tract enough to prevent proper absorption of food. As far as I'm aware the only course of treatment for damage to the bowel is surgery.

    In humans you're talking about an enema to lubricate and soften the impaction, then "digital manipulation" to break it down into smaller pieces. I don't know about giving a garter an enema (I'd expect to be bitten if I tried), and you managed to massage the impaction out, so I think it was just too much damage to an old snake.
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    Re: Post Compaction Advice

    Well put Chris. Thanks.
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