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    Feeding rosie reds once?

    if i feed them rosie reds once just to watch them hunt?
    i plan on deworming here soon so worms arent a big deal
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    Re: Feeding rosie reds once?

    I don't think it would be an issue, but you're going to have to make your own judgement call on this one. If you can find guppies they will hunt those, too. I've used both and wouldn't hesitate to give a once in a great while snack of rosies... but I'm willing to take that risk (I don't think there's much of one, but I'm NOT an expert nor a veterinarian).
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    Re: Feeding rosie reds once?

    Once or even more often for a short period of time probably isn't an issue.
    (In my opinion) Long term feeding and only feeding rosies is a problem.

    They will hunt the same way if you use guppies
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    Re: Feeding rosie reds once?

    Quote Originally Posted by guidofatherof5 View Post
    Once or even more often for a short period of time probably isn't an issue.
    (In my opinion) Long term feeding and only feeding rosies is a problem.
    Agreed. Before I knew any better, I fed concinnus' feeder goldfish quite often but they also got a wide variety of other foods and occasional reptile supplements. They got huge and lived long healthy lives. Some snakes seem to be all but immune to the thiaminase problem anyway. It's just that you greatly increase the chances of running into a problem, the more you feed them thiaminase laden fish so it's best not to take the chance and avoid them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Starling96 View Post
    are the silver minnows silver sides?
    If I were you, I would try to verify the Latin (scientific) species name to be sure of what you are getting.

    Frozen silversides from the pet store(sold as food for carnivorous fish) are Arctic pond smelt. They lack the little fin found on the back, near the tail. True smelt have two fins on their backs. Two common brands of frozen silversides are "San Fransisco Bay Brand" by Ocean Nutrition and my favorite (packed better, in water to avoid freezer burn/drying, and bigger fish) is "Sally's" silversides flat.

    Lots of small fish, mainly for human consumption, can be called "silversides" or "smelt" but they have that little fin near the tail and contain thiaminase.

    True "minnows" some of which can be called "silversides" also have that little fin and are loaded with thiaminase. The problem with "minnows" or "silversides" is that those common names are often applied to any small silvery fish or juvenile fish. Be sure of the species you are using.

    Pet store frozen silversides do not contain thiaminase and are a great food for your garters as just part of their diet. They are always Arctic Pond "smelt" which are quite high in fat so I don't recommend using them as a main food source but they're perfect for preparing your snake for brumation or egg production, or for putting weight on a thin snake that is picky and wants to eat just fish. They are whole, intact fish, including the guts, which is good, and they are thiaminase-free.
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    Re: Feeding rosie reds once?

    yea
    i cant find guppies
    but i just want to see if u guys think its a bad ideas
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    Re: Feeding rosie reds once?

    i know they'll hunt the sam but i cant find any at any of the sshops
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    Re: Feeding rosie reds once?

    Quote Originally Posted by Starling96 View Post
    i know they'll hunt the sam but i cant find any at any of the sshops
    I understand.
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    Re: Feeding rosie reds once?

    Parasites would be the only concern. But no. It won't hurt thiamnaise-wise.

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    Re: Feeding rosie reds once?

    Cool i bought 15 they love them... too much
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    Re: Feeding rosie reds once?

    I love watching them catch fish!

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