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    Hi, I'm New Here! Falcon's Avatar
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    Hello, I´m new here!

    Hello everyone!

    I´m Falcon and I´m living in Monterrey Mexico.

    For the last six years I´ve been taking care of my boa cook, but today I received a gift, and I believe is a Thamnophis proximus orarius, am I right?

    Now, I´ve been searching some info, and I´ve a few questions, if you can link me to the info, well, I will be very grateful, that would we awesome!

    1. What do she need in her new house?
    a heater?
    how much water?
    a filter?

    2. They told me she will eat three fishes every week, is that all? is that right?

    3. What else I need to know?

    Thanks again,
    Liliana.





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    Re: Hello, I´m new here!

    1. The snake needs a water bowl, a basking spot and somewhere to hide. Those are the three most important things. The substrate must remain completely dry, so it's not possible to make an aquaterrarium by filling it with water and piling substrate in one end of the enclosure to make land. Just in case that's why you asked about the filter.

    2. How many fish to feed it depends on the size of the fish. The simplest way to find out roughly how much to feed a snake, is by weighing it first and then the fish. The snake should be fed 10-20% of its weight in fish per week, divided over 1-3 feedings depending on how quickly the snake is growing. The bigger it gets, the less food it will need relative to its size. If it eats less than that, it's okay.

    3. What else do you need to know?

    Check out the general care sheet in our articles section:
    Garter Snake Care Sheet - Caresheets


    Your snake is not a Thamnophis proximus orarius, but it is definitely a Thamnophis species.


    Welcome aboard.

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    Re: Hello, I´m new here!

    Quote Originally Posted by Stefan-A View Post
    Your snake is not a Thamnophis proximus orarius, but it is definitely a Thamnophis species.
    I agree. It's definitely not a T. proximus orarius, but it is a Thamnophis, and therefore still a garter (or ribbon) snake. It looks somewhat like a blackneck garter snake (Thamnophis cyrtopsis) but don't take that as an expert I.D.

    What you have there is a garter snake but not exactly like any I have ever seen. It only resembles T. cyrtopsis but I cannot be sure. It shares similarities but is not a typical example of most T. cyrtopsis. There are species' of garter snakes south of the U.S./Mexico border that are poorly described or understood, or at the very least, are not very familiar to most people around the world.

    Whatever you have there, it's very good looking. Seems healthy, is pretty, but not a T. proximus orarius.

    Keep it's enclosure dry and clean. The snake only needs a bowl of clean water to drink, a place to hide, and the ability to choose different temperature ranges throughout his enclosure. Plants and places to hide will help reduce stress and help the snake feel safe. Boas do just fine being kept very warm and humid. Small garter snakes need to have a choice of temperature range and generally kept cooler than boas. They need a temperature gradient. The care sheet explains. Garter Snake Care Sheet - Caresheets

    "It's best to provide a temperature gradient within the enclosure, so the snake(s) can choose the temperature that suits them at any given time. The daytime range should be between about 72-88F (22-30C). Nighttime temperatures shouldn't regularly fall below about 65F (18C) for northern species or 75F (21C) for southern species."

    It is nice to have you here. I look forward to hearing more and learning more about your garter snake.

    I think this snake just might be a blackneck garter. perhaps a locality specific morph. They are variable enough to put that in the range of possibility.
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    Re: Hello, I´m new here!

    Hi Liliana welcome to the site, there is no shortage of friendly people to help give you all the information you may need,so stick with us there's not another site quite like it
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    Re: Hello, I´m new here!

    Nice having you on the forum Liliana.
    Beautiful snake.
    Have tried feeding night crawlers?
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    Re: Hello, I´m new here!

    welcome to the forum, Liliana
    your garter is beautiful
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    Hi, welcome!!!!!
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    Re: Hello, I´m new here!

    Welcome to the forum Liliana. Looks to me like a blackneck also thamnophis cyrtopsis cyrtopsis.
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    Re: Hello, I´m new here!

    Hi, from Oregon, Liliana

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    OLLO!!! From Utah!! Welcome to the forum!! :-)

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