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    New albino!

    i just got another albino checkered garter, im pretty sure they are both females---new and old one---which i guess it is better than two males but not as good as male and female

    i can get some pics soon.

    Thanks,
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    Re: New albino!

    We'll be eager to see em!

    It is generally easier to buy a male to go with females, than it is to find a female for a male...
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    Re: New albino!

    question about genetics.....if i were to buy a male checkered garter (reg) and breed it with one female, unless he was het there would be no albino, but what if i then breed the male with the other female and took a g1 from each female and bred them, would that work?

    i know the pic stink but....
    checkers, the one i have had, is the second one
    Females right?



    checkers is the larger one



    dont worry better ones are coming!

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    Re: New albino!

    Statistically speaking, 25% of your G2 would be albinos, and 66% of the normal-looking G2 would be hets.

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    Re: New albino!

    would it be ok though, because they would basically be like brother and sister...just wondering if that messes them up like us

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    Cool Re: New albino!

    Quote Originally Posted by rwgsnakes View Post
    would it be ok though, because they would basically be like brother and sister...just wondering if that messes them up like us
    This does not have to give any problems. Often are morphs the result of brother x sister or father x daughter etc.
    If you have a chance to require an animal that is not related, you best do so.
    But it always is gambling when you start breeding with morphs that are related.
    They are selcted on their color or so and not if they are healthy or so.
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    Re: New albino!

    Quote Originally Posted by Cazador View Post
    Statistically speaking, 25% of your G2 would be albinos, and 66% of the normal-looking G2 would be hets.
    In all the statistics that I know of I don't know how you got 25% and 66% (25+66=91). What about the other 9%?

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    Re: New albino!

    Quote Originally Posted by alex_c View Post
    In all the statistics that I know of I don't know how you got 25% and 66% (25+66=91). What about the other 9%?
    Doesn't work that way. I assume he meant that 25% would be albinos, 75% normals. Of the normals 66% would be hets.

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    Re: New albino!

    Congratulations with the addition to the collection.

    In general I'd do the same what Thamnophis suggests. It's better to acquire unrelated bloodlines if that's possible. There is however a lot of inbreeding with morphs, but I'm still not convinced that this will not give problems in the long run (so for future generations).

    What rick means is indeed that 66% of the regular looking snakes ( which are 75% of the young ) are het. But there is no way to tell if the snake is het or not, there will be no distinctive mark between the regular looking young ones.

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    Re: New albino!

    "problems" is really a matter of degree
    essentially, by inbreeding, one narrows the amount of genetic material available and thus there is a greater chance of getting stuck with some weakened trait
    highly inbred animals tend to be less robust than animals with more divers genetic backgrounds
    these are just tendencies

    there was something else I wanted to say . . .
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