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    Ophiuchus rhea drache's Avatar
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    putting them together

    I've always kept my garters in small groups of similarly sized snakes of the same gender, or some of them in species groups of two or three
    I would like to put together a species tank, involving three large females and an adult male of smallish stature.
    I'm hoping that someone can reassure me that the boy isn't going to be in any danger from the ladies - I'm rather attached to him.
    he's currently housing with one of them already
    the move would put the two of them in a 4'x2' enclosure with the two other females
    opinions are welcomed
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    Ophiuchus rhea drache's Avatar
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    Re: putting them together

    why am I even fretting over this?
    I can be such a fuss-bucket sometimes
    these are my easterns I'm talking about
    and it's done
    rhea
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    Re: putting them together

    Good for you, Rhea.

    While he may be small and LOOK like a worm, the girls will say he smells like snake, so shouldn't think of him as prey. Just give him a good bath before you put him in if you take him out and tub feed him, so he doesn't smell appetizing! LOL!

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    Re: putting them together

    Quote Originally Posted by drache View Post
    I'm hoping that someone can reassure me that the boy isn't going to be in any danger from the ladies - I'm rather attached to him.
    Nope, I can't do that, because there are no guarantees. And don't be surprised if some or all of the females become gravid.

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    Re: putting them together

    As long as your females are fed and no longer hungry I don't think there is a great chance he'll get eaten but there is still a chance.
    I agree with Stefan, a male with females = gravid female at any time of the year.
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    Re: putting them together

    Quote Originally Posted by guidofatherof5 View Post
    As long as your females are fed and no longer hungry I don't think there is a great chance he'll get eaten but there is still a chance.
    I agree with Stefan, a male with females = gravid female at any time of the year.
    This is information I had never considered! i assumed that breeding took place shortly after brumation. Is this not the case? Can they breed any time during the summer months and not just in the few weeks after waking up??? (the things we learn on this forum!)
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    Re: putting them together

    Quote Originally Posted by Hollis_Steed View Post
    Can they breed any time during the summer months and not just in the few weeks after waking up??? (the things we learn on this forum!)
    Yes. No brumation is no contraception.

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    Re: putting them together

    I have radixes breed all year long, if I let them. I don't let them very often outside the Spring breeding time.
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    Re: putting them together

    I have had non-brumated radixes breed in the Spring, Summer, Fall and Winter.
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    Re: putting them together

    Quote Originally Posted by Stefan-A View Post
    Yes. No brumation is no contraception.
    Quote Originally Posted by guidofatherof5 View Post
    I have had non-brumated radixes breed in the Spring, Summer, Fall and Winter.

    That is actually good news for some of us. My concinnus don't seem to have taken, and I'd like to see babies from them. They have been separated a while, in case she was gravid, but no babies have resulted. I hope if I feed the heck out of them, and conditions are right, they'll take. They're so pretty, I'd love to see their babies!!!!

    Back to the topic at hand, Rhea, they're all eastern, but what morphs (counting my pennies to buy offspring, LOL).


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