Can You.......

[Snakeknot]

Can you breed a Puget Sound garter to a Florida blue???? And if so what would be the result?????

Just curious.

Devon

[infernalis]

The result would be a hybrid... highly frowned upon.

They are two entirely different subspecies.

[Nafun]

Wouldn't different subspecies be an integrade?
(Yeah, yeah, I know garter keepers think integrade is a 4 letter word, just like hybrid)

[Stefan-A]

Wouldn't different subspecies be an integrade?

Nein. Intergrade is not a "mild form" of hybrid.

[Jeff B]

hybrid=worthless mutt

with absolutely no predictible inheritance or phenotype pattern, very muddy genetics forever downstream. Just my oppinion.

[mustang]

hybrid=worthless mutt

with absolutely no predictible inheritance or phenotype pattern, very muddy genetics forever downstream. Just my oppinion.

like shannon said not worthless....just out of curiosoty isnt a hybrid considered "steril, unfertile, and not able to produce" i coulda sworn that the offspring cant reproduce....mules, ligers, and other known hybrid animals

[Jeff B]

like shannon said not worthless....just out of curiosoty isnt a hybrid considered "steril, unfertile, and not able to produce" i coulda sworn that the offspring cant reproduce....mules, ligers, and other known hybrid animals

Hybrids are worthless to any breeder with any long term plans or any breeder that wants to have any sense of control and be able to manipulate the desired outcome, or even to preserve the natural clean look of a normal wild type, not worthless because they are sterile. However I'm not saying they are worthless to someone who wants a pet like Shannon was eluding to.....however it never just ends there, it would be nice if they were always sterile, then one persons choice/actions wouldn't effect others in the hobby.

[infernalis]

I believe that the general consensus is that intigrades occur in the wild when two subspecies from the same area mate without help from man.

Since Florida blues are from the opposite side of the nation than Puget sound garters, they would certainly never meet in the wild without interference by man.

[Snakeknot]

Ah! So same thing as breeding a corn snake with a rat snake. Some love it, some hate it. Somehow I knew that would break some rule. But, as I said, I was just curious. I thought maybe they were the kind of snakes that didn't do well together like wanderings.

Hybrids seem to be controversial everywhere you go, whether its dogs, horses or even snakes.

Devon

[gartermorphs]

Can you breed a Puget Sound garter to a Florida blue???? And if so what would be the result?????

Just curious.

Devon

even though it would be a hybrid i would be very interested on what it would look like!