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    New To Garters...

    This is my garter snakes (I have three) first night out here in California. I purchased them online from a reputable source where I have purchased many herps before.
    My question is; I now have them in two enclosures; the large one in a screened home and the other two are housed in a 10 gallon vivarium. My question is this; should I have a heat lamp on them at night? They are outdoors right now with a warming mat under the cages. They have 3 inches of pine substrate and a cover to hide in. The nights have been in the 60's and I am wondering if the ground mat is enough for these evenings.
    maxmommy ( mother, grandmother, owner of a redfoot tortoise, 2 red-eared sliders, 20 firebellied toads, 3 indonesian garters and four Great Plains toads...oh, and two doxies!)

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    Re: New To Garters...

    Quote Originally Posted by maxmommy View Post
    This is my garter snakes (I have three) first night out here in California. I purchased them online from a reputable source where I have purchased many herps before.
    My question is; I now have them in two enclosures; the large one in a screened home and the other two are housed in a 10 gallon vivarium. My question is this; should I have a heat lamp on them at night? They are outdoors right now with a warming mat under the cages. They have 3 inches of pine substrate and a cover to hide in. The nights have been in the 60's and I am wondering if the ground mat is enough for these evenings.
    What species are they? If they are sirtalis or elegans they should be fine.

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    Re: New To Garters...

    was the source reptilesncritters?
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    Talking Re: Here's Photos of My Babies!

    Here are a few pics of some of my babies: My two wirehaired dachshunds, "Max" and "Angie", my red-eared slider (one of two), my redfoot tortoise (hittin' the Jack Daniels ) and my NEWEST baby, " Skippy" the snake! (one of three). Now, is he/she an Indonesian Keelback?
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    Re: New To Garters...

    Looks like a Keelback to me. Beautiful snake.
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    Re: New To Garters...

    I agree with Steve, looks like a keelback.
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    Re: New To Garters...

    It does not look like a keelback. It is a keelback.

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    Re: New To Garters...

    LOL! 3 yays ,0 nays...Keelback it is! Now I am going to look for some posts on these guys..I can't help but feel my keelbacks are doomed! I gotta find someone who has had good luck with them....
    maxmommy ( mother, grandmother, owner of a redfoot tortoise, 2 red-eared sliders, 20 firebellied toads, 3 indonesian garters and four Great Plains toads...oh, and two doxies!)

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    Re: New To Garters...

    The company you ordered them from probably listed them with a scientific classification. You can Google that classification, and it will tell you exactly what it is.

    Did you know that Google is the only thing more powerful than Chuck Norris?

    According to Wikipedia, people sometimes market these keelbacks as "Canadian Garter Snakes". Weird, since real Canadian Garters Snakes are pretty much the same Thamnophis found in the US.

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    Re: New To Garters...

    Quote Originally Posted by maxmommy View Post
    LOL! 3 yays ,0 nays...Keelback it is! Now I am going to look for some posts on these guys..I can't help but feel my keelbacks are doomed! I gotta find someone who has had good luck with them....
    I wouldn't say doomed. They have you. A Vet. fecal screen, the right food and habitat and they could very well have a long life. I myself would love to have a breeding pair. Getting them just adds to their troubles. C.B are what I'm looking for and I would jump at the chance to own them. I think they are beautiful.
    Good luck and keep us posted on them.
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