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    Help Me Identify

    Me and my dad went herping today and found more than 25 melinistic garters and this, its more orange but its stressed so get more pics.

    took some more pics just to help you identify it



    Hope these help need anymore shots just ask me. And if there are any specific area of the body (Head, Eye) just ask.

    Thanks, Petruga

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    Re: Help Me Identify

    Welcome aboard.

    Where did you find it? Knowing your location helps narrowing it down.

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    Re: Help Me Identify

    looks like an eastern to me.... but can't be sure with out the location...
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    Re: Help Me Identify

    Is it from the great lakes region?There are a lot with red orange coloring up there.

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    Re: Help Me Identify

    looks like an eastern.....but, we need to know from what area it came too.

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    Re: Help Me Identify

    I agree, looks like T.s.sirtalis.
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    Re: Help Me Identify

    welcome to the forum
    did you keep any of the melanistics also?
    rhea
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    Re: Help Me Identify

    Hey guys i found it in sounthern central ontario, toronto. and no i did not keep any melinistics, and i aslo let it go but i took more pictures if you need. in the pictures i took does have show all of the orange. so i will describe it for you guys. from the middle of the bodie to under the belly its orange, and it has sorda of a green in between the orange and the top stripe.

    Thanks Petruga

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    Re: Help Me Identify

    When it is from Central Ontario, it has to be a T. s. sirtalis.
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    Re: Help Me Identify

    As others have said, it's an Eastern - specifically a non-melanistic version of the other garters you were finding.
    They vary quite a bit - here's a Cleveland-area orange specimen.

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