Shortheads in captivity?

[infernalis]

Anyone here ever try to keep a shorthead? (Thamnophis brachystoma)

Their range is within a short drive of home for me.

[aSnakeLovinBabe]

well I know here in PA, they are heavily protected. I would check NY regulations

[infernalis]

That kid in Pittsburgh that feeds them to ring necks said he could mail me one or a pair.

That's why I asked.

[aSnakeLovinBabe]

Yea I saw that, they have a very small range overall and here in PA they are totally off limits. He is catching them, freezing them, and feeding them to his ringnecked snakes. Just because there are a lot in HIS area does not make it okay. If you are going to breed snakes as feeders that is one thing, but to go and and grab any happy healthy garter snake you see in the wild is just plain wrong, let alone a protected species. I wouldn't take wild mice from a nest to feed to my snakes and I only use a WC salamander or frog if I have a snake that is refusing everything else!

I would just be careful, if he takes them from PA, they are illegally collected and that's a danger to both him and you! I don't know about any other states (southern NY maybe?) regulations concerning them.

[infernalis]

I'll have to look into legalities, Not worth losing the whole collection and facing stiff fines just to have a shorthead or two.

[duh duh duh]

so....

we have someone poaching a threatened species and using it as a feeder?

And you haven't contacted the authorities...why?

help me out here.

That type of behavior is what threatens the hobby and is 180 degrees opposite from proper husbandry.

[infernalis]

Duh Duh Duh - This guy posts pictures on the "small terrestrial snakes" forum at KS of his ringnecks eating shortheads.

Photos all over his web site too.

[adamanteus]

Let's make sure he never comes here, okay? If you guys who know him, see him here, let me know please.

[infernalis]

No worries there James, many of us know his arrogant arse.

He won't come here.......

He has been "Approached" a few times to find better food for his ringnecks, and he never answers nice.

[adamanteus]

No worries there James, many of us know his arrogant arse.

He won't come here.......

He has been "Approached" a few times to find better food for his ringnecks, and he never answers nice.

Could you PM me a link to his website, Wayne?