black rat?

[vwsrcool]

does anyone know they sceintific name for a black rat snake?

[Stefan-A]

Pantherophis obsoletus obsoletus, I think. Formerly Elaphe obsoleta obsoleta.

[flakgunner]

Pantherophis obsoletus obsoletus, I think. Formerly Elaphe obsoleta obsoleta.

hey,
I believe it's still Elaphe,I was reading some info on the net on Rat Snakes,it's been suggested that the name be changed to Pantherophis,but the high up powers to be,haven't approved it yet,unless i was reading a old article.

Joe

[enigma200316]

every place I checked it still comes up as Elaphe obsoleta...

[GarterGuy]

It has officially changed from Elaphe to Pantherophis, but many hobbyist still use Elaphe, kind of how they still call Florida kings "Brooksi phase" florida kings when they are actually the nominate subspecies and what used to be Florida kings are now Peninsular Integrade Kings. Names are really fun!!!! Oh and to make things more confusing, Black rats don't exist anymore either....they're now called Eastern Rat snakes. Just a little bit more confusion for you.

Roy

[enigma200316]

I did see that when I was searching that they did infact call them Eastern Rats, but didn't see the name change anywhere.......

[Stefan-A]

hey,
I believe it's still Elaphe,I was reading some info on the net on Rat Snakes,it's been suggested that the name be changed to Pantherophis,but the high up powers to be,haven't approved it yet,unless i was reading a old article.

Joe

Last time I heard, somebody suggested moving the Pantherophis species to Pituophis.

[flakgunner]

hey,
Nice looking snake!IN my 35+ years of collecting,I've never had a Racer.always heard that their quite skittish,poor eaters in captivity,closest I've come to these was a Coachwhip,way back in my much younger days,didn't do good at all,but these was when all snakes being sold at shops where wild caught,and I know that one was,whew!it was one mean,grumpy snake.

Joe

[GarterGuy]

Hmmm interesting.......when I managed the pet store we got in a racer, not sure of the subspecies, and it was mellow, well tempered and hell ate everything! We even kind of experimented with it to see what it would eat! Mice, rats, hamsters, anoles, fish, frogs, even ate crickets.....and it was over 3ft. long!

[Deadlyvenom]

I bought a 2 months old black rat female few weeks ago. She is my first snake and absolutely fantastic. Not aggressive but has some temperament, eats well and is very active. I just can't wait her to grow up and change the colour, her parents are very deep black with very little pattern (at least according to the pictures I've seen, I never saw them live because they were sold just before I bought mine) Here is one little bit fuzzy picture, I tried to shot better one but it is quite difficult since she is always moving and both the camera and the person behind it are quite crappy too...