San Fran City pays for building golf course on garter and frog habitat

[Jeff B]

They should have to pay a lot more and have to destroy the clubhouse and return to national park. Judge Orders City to Pay Fine for Killing Snakes and Frogs at Sharp Park Golf Course - San Francisco - News - The Snitch

[RedSidedSPR]

I'd have considered the gallows.

[Jeff B]

lol not sure the punishment need be that extreme. The build shouldn't have been allowed in the first place. Classic example of abuse of power. I enjoy playing golf now and then but not at the expense of snuffing out 2 of the most beautiful species in the world.

[infernalis]

lol not sure the punishment need be that extreme. The build shouldn't have been allowed in the first place. Classic example of abuse of power. I enjoy playing golf now and then but not at the expense of snuffing out 2 of the most beautiful species in the world.

You may wish to think twice before you eat pineapple and coconut products then

[the_edsta]

You may wish to think twice before you eat pineapple and coconut products then

Why stop there?



But it is good to see people being coerced into caring about what they've destroyed. It took the indigo snake being categorized as "threatened" here (fl) for anyone to care (and by "care" I mean "worried and annoyed by potential fines and interruptions").

[jwolfe152]

You may wish to think twice before you eat pineapple and coconut products then

why is that?

[jwolfe152]

it doesn't sound like they actually "care" then, its just an annoyance and don't want to potentially pay a fine. if they did care then they would be doing something about it, as in not developing an area or making or setting up a sanctuary for animals that get displaced from development. thats just my opinion.

[the_edsta]

it doesn't sound like they actually "care" then, its just an annoyance and don't want to potentially pay a fine. if they did care then they would be doing something about it, as in not developing an area or making or setting up a sanctuary for animals that get displaced from development. thats just my opinion.

I agree, but still, that is a semantic argument. Care doesn't need to be emotional or even 'authentic'... It will mean one thing to one philosopher, something else to another, or to a sociologist, or to a behavioral economist. At any rate, what does matter is that people (developers particularly) modify their behavior in a way that is amenable to those with some 'authentic' concern for the natural world (even if the notion is ultimately selfish -- or at least in the spirit of self preservation) rather than seeing it as something that can be used (exploited) for the accumulation of wealth (eg corporate capitalism). And gladly, snake enthusiasts have a voice in that game... Which is why I stick to domestic snakes only! Similarly, fresh water anglers have always had a voice when it comes to preservation, as have hunters, in their own way.

[aSnakeLovinBabe]

On that note, just stop consuming all products, forever. Go out int the forest and become a hermit and only take what you personally have to for survival. Even then, something somewhere suffers in some way because of your existence.

On another note, they can take that over glorified chunk of fake grass and pesticides and shove it.

[jwolfe152]

golf courses just take and destroy way to much land to be considered acceptable for a sport/game. miles on miles of clearing land and destroying ponds and then trying to replant trees and grass and make new ponds so it "looks pretty" when it looked beautiful in the first place. all for a hole in the ground for a ball to roll into.