thiamine B, how long?

[Radix97]

I have a baby Thamnophis elegans and im just wondering how long it would take
for the thiamine b1 deficciancy to occur, im trying to convert him over to guppies
but he only responds to rosy reds (he has only eaten twice four days apart)

[snakeman]

Stuff the rosey reds with reptomin pellets and don't worry about it.introduce scented pinks every other week once you get it feeding regularly

[guidofatherof5]

If your snake is eating rosy reds it will eat guppies. I've never heard of a garter distinguishing between fish.
Any fish = Food

Have you tried the worm chunks in with the fish?
The more hungry a garter gets the less picky they are.
What size container are you using when you feed? You are container feeding, right?

Try this. Put guppies in with rosy reds and watch what happens.
Make sure the guppies out number the rosies. Your little scrub will eat whatever it grabs.

[Radix97]

Currently i container feed him in a one cup ziplock container, I have zebra danios which he refused (im not sure about the thiminase in these either). Ive tried worm chunks before but ive never gotten a reaction from that. I will try Snakeman's reptomin minnow plan and will try mixing as many guppies with some of my rosies. i think the reason why he didnt eat the danios is because he was stressed cause he shed the same day.

[reptileparadise]

If your snake is eating rosy reds it will eat guppies. I've never heard of a garter distinguishing between fish.
Any fish = Food

Have you tried the worm chunks in with the fish?
The more hungry a garter gets the less picky they are.
What size container are you using when you feed? You are container feeding, right?

Try this. Put guppies in with rosy reds and watch what happens.
Make sure the guppies out number the rosies. Your little scrub will eat whatever it grabs.

Thats interesting Steve... I (and others with me...) have noticed otherwise with frozen/thawed fish! Some species are most certainly ignored, even when mixed!

[guidofatherof5]

Thats interesting Steve... I (and others with me...) have noticed otherwise with frozen/thawed fish! Some species are most certainly ignored, even when mixed!

I should have been more specific in my answer. I meant live fish.
My comment was more from a commonsense point of view then experience. I can't imagine any garter caring about most fish species when a feeding response has been triggered by flopping/splashing fish.

[guidofatherof5]

Keep us posted, please.

[d_virginiana]

Are the rosies and guppies the same size? All the rosies I've ever seen have been much larger than a typical guppy... If that's the case, he may be going for the bigger prey.

[d_virginiana]

My oldest one actually refused to eat rosy reds. He would eat anything that was silver though. I always thought it had something to do with the way they caught the light. Since the rosy reds were kind of patchy colored, I figured maybe they looked strange when they were moving.

[Radix97]

Yes, the guppies are about half the size of the rosy reds. im getting more guppies soon