Sonoma County infernalis

[BUSHSNAKE]

this girl is gonna be a looker for sure, this specific local is different then Marin county infernalis. She is the only Sonoma County infernalis in U.S. collections. Steven Bol brought this local into collections, i obtained her directly from him.

[Ruth]

I want to come and live at your house.

[BUSHSNAKE]

ok, but only if you can cook lol

[Ruth]

I can but I think I'd just stand starring at the snakes.

[ConcinusMan]

Snakes are filing a restraining order against you as we speak because you creep them out LoL

[BLUESIRTALIS]

Sweet looking girl!

this girl is gonna be a looker for sure, this specific local is different then marin county infernalis. She is the only sonoma county infernalis in u.s. Collections. Steven bol brought this local into collections, i obtained her directly from him.

[thamneil]

Very unique! When I think of infernalis in my head, they look nothing like her.

[BUSHSNAKE]

Very unique! When I think of infernalis in my head, they look nothing like her.

She is different thats why i posted pictures so when someone else tells you they have Sonoma County infernalis they have something to compare. There is some missrepresentation going on. Poison to our hobby.

[ConcinusMan]

She is different thats why i posted pictures so when someone else tells you they have Sonoma County infernalis they have something to compare.

And I've herped first-hand, populations of them that vary a lot and find ones that don't look exactly like anything shown in the hobby/pet trade. Then walk a few feet and I could easily find one that looks exactly like yours or anyone elses. Then, a few feet away I could find one that looks nothing like yours or any others from that county.

You could show me any infernalis from any county, or anywhere in the pet trade and I could go herping in one spot, in one county and show you a snake that looks exactly like what you got, or nothing like any you see online.

You could show me a "neon blue" infernalis, then show me the one you got there and tell me they came from the same spot and I would believe it because I've seen that kind of variation in one place before.

Then low and behold, I go herping for concinnus and pickeringi and encounter the same thing. Yes, there is some geographical differences in morphology but in some places, the varied morphology is the rule rather than an exception.

I wouldn't doubt it one bit if you told me that snake came from coastal Del Norte or Humbolt Co. I could probably find one there that looks exactly like it, and also one that looks nothing like it.

[BUSHSNAKE]

And I've herped first-hand, populations of them that vary a lot and find ones that don't look exactly like anything shown in the hobby/pet trade. Then walk a few feet and I could easily find one that looks exactly like yours or anyone elses. Then, a few feet away I could find one that looks nothing like yours or any others from that county.

You could show me any infernalis from any county, or anywhere in the pet trade and I could go herping in one spot, in one county and show you a snake that looks exactly like what you got, or nothing like any you see online.

You could show me a "neon blue" infernalis, then show me the one you got there and tell me they came from the same spot and I would believe it because I've seen that kind of variation in one place before.

Then low and behold, I go herping for concinnus and pickeringi and encounter the same thing. Yes, there is some geographical differences in morphology but in some places, the varied morphology is the rule rather than an exception.

I wouldn't doubt it one bit if you told me that snake came from coastal Del Norte or Humbolt Co. I could probably find one there that looks exactly like it, and also one that looks nothing like it.

the male i had with this girl looked more like a Marin County so yeah i understand varability, you know this. The reason i posted her is because she has the typical Sonoma County LOOK...thats what makes her different. If someone wants a Sonoma County infernalis it is because of how they typically look...they tend to have more red as they age. A Marin County doesnt get more red with age. Thats what attracted me to the Sonoma County infernalis.
It would be very easy to sell a Marin County as a Sonoma County and vice versa but that would be ignorant!!