Please Identify

[katach]

Lisa found this little female. Not something I've seen here in Washington that I recognize. She was found in Port Orchard, Wa, Kitsap County

[ssssnakeluvr]

I would say valley garter, but the face marking resemble the pugets I have.

[ConcinusMan]

I know I already answered this but I found a video...

I would say valley garter, but the face marking resemble the pugets I have.

That's because it is a puget. Definitely can't always go by color. If you did, you would swear it was a T. s. fitchi. But the location makes that impossible. It is a puget. Almost all of them look like that around Vancouver, B.C. whereas in WA state we get a variety of different colors and patterns in that subspecies. Sometimes depends on location, while other locations have more variety. Like in Lewis county where I got many of mine this year, there's a wide variety. Red like that one, black with yellow stripes and yellow bars or spots, or without bars or spots. The one thing that remains constant in all of them, is those facial markings. They all have it. Here's another puget from Vancouver B.C. Seems like all of them around there are the red phase but take a look at the facial markings and you know it's a puget. (see 1:10 in the video) Occasionally concinnus' have similar markings but they're out of range to be mistaken for fitchi or pugets.



Apparently, there is some confusion here in the video too. Looks like a Chinese (?) dude but he's in Canada, and talks like he's from Australia. Now I'm really confused. The snakes, I know. People are another matter. LOL.

[Light of Dae]

A hybrid of fitchi n eastern?

I don't know.

First thing that came to me.

[katach]

No easterns in this area, but we do have valley and puget. Could it be a wild occurring hybrid?

[guidofatherof5]

Sweet looking little scrub no matter what the I.D. is.

[RedSidedSPR]

Looks like a fitchi (valley) with strong markings to me. Either way it's AWESOME.

[CrazyHedgehog]

wow, georgous!

[Lisa4john]

Thanks guys! I'm so excited I found her. She is very relaxed and calm, fell asleep in my hand just after I got her, then my husband was holding her, and she just sat there watching Hardcastle and McCormack with him. I named her Lacy. No matter what she is, she is mine now, and I feel blessed.

[RedSidedSPR]

I'm confused.