Please help, babies sick!!!!!!!!

[Preacha1130]

I need some serious help. Like a week ago my garter babies just started dropping off like flies. I dont know what to do. I've cleaned their aquarium thoroughly, and I change their water every other day. Its starting to worry me because I've lost 4 and now another is weak and probably will pass soon. The thing is he was healthy and flying around the cage yesterday. I've noticed on the ones who have passed that a day or two before their bellies are real soft and their intestine is extremely black. So much so you can see it through the skin. The ones who get sick become very lathargic and have a hard time rolling over if placed on their back. Two who have passed had what almost seemed like a green puss under the skin and almost all others who have passed looked like they had been cut with a blade down the middle. Please help; my sons Max died and now his favorite, Max's baby we called "Bernie", has passed and I don't have the heart to tell him.

[Lori P]

I'm probably not the best one to help you, having not experienced this, but my first thought is to contact your reptile vet; they could necropsy a freshly dead one and give you an idea. I know others here will have more advice...

[Josh]

what are youfeeding them?

[zooplan]

When baby garters are ill crisis often comes rapidly.
Some times its so fast that you could think it was a dead without reason.
To clean up everything in the cage is only the first step.
You should visit a vet to control thier feces most parasites can be rocognized this way.

[Preacha1130]

They have been eating feeder fish and guppies right now. I have played with the notion that they may be malnourished and vitamin deficient. I have been looking today for snake vitamin's and stumbled across Reptomin. Does anyone know of any other good vitamin suppliments?

[zooplan]

To much vitamins can make it worse too, be carefull.
Your description sounds not like vitamine deficieny to me, but symptoms vary a lot.

[Preacha1130]

Adamanteus had suggested that their heat pad may be too hot. Altough I had checked it and it doesn't seemed to be very warm Adamanteus had said the only time he had seen symptoms like that where after the snake had passed and the floor was warm. I have disconnect the pad and have been running off of a heat lamp today so hopefully that helps.

[adamanteus]

To expand on that, this is what I said;

http://www.thamnophis.com/forum/priv...wpm&pmid=11802

[Lulu Bennett]

it wont let us see the link

[rancor_]

it wont let us see the link

It apears that he tried to link to a PM?/????
what are the temps in the cage?