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    Fish

    Ok so I think we all need to put our heads together and come up with a list of the fish that are ok to be fed. I'll take care of putting the list together you guys just get me the names of the fish.


    At some point I'll wonder around to the local pet shops, write down names, and than ask which ones can be fed and which ones can't. This list will not only help me but all new people to the care of garters.

    So go ahead and post the fish that are OK for garters to eat.

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    Re: Fish

    Actually, I think we already have a list like that somewhere around here. I may be wrong though.
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    Re: Fish

    New or old list, I think it'd be great to have pics of each kind. Worms, too.
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    Re: Fish

    My garters are fed as follows:

    Any who willingly take or can be tricked to take rodents are fed a steady diet of them. They are supplemented twice a month with worms and fish. I also use reptivite occasionally.

    As far as worms go, you want to use standard earthworms or nightcrawlers that you would buy as fishing bait. I buy canadian nightcrawlers. The walmart in my area supplies them year round.

    If they are red in color or have visible color rings such as those little red worms that are used to bait trout, do not use them. These worms are dubbed by many to be poisonous to garters and do more harm than good. The fact that they secrete a nasty smelling orange slime should be enough to deter you. They are tempting to owners of baby garters. Instead, dig up some small earthworms from your garden (assuming you don't use pesticides) or chop up nightcrawlers. To make them easier to chop up, run them under semi hot water, it kills the worm, Yes I know its mean but it's practical as it prevents you from having to chop him to bits while he's alive.

    Fish, are tricky. You have to be careful because of the damaging efects of thiaminase. Still, there is no clear complete list on which fish contain thiaminase and which do not. What I can tell you is do not use feeder goldfish. They contain thiaminase. I prefer feeder guppies and rosy reds. My babies all grow up on this diet until they are big enough to eat pinks.

    Also, never feed garters fish that has been frozen/thawed, and do not boil or cook fish prior to feeding. This will destroy much of the nutritional content of the meat. I know some people like to use slices of larger fish. I do not do this therefore I cannot tell you which large fish are safe for yuor garters to eat.

    I have heard of people serving their garters red meat as well. I personally don't find it necessary and I don't think it's really natural for garters to be eating beef, but I don't see where there would be any ill effects if fed as a treat from time to time.

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    Re: Fish

    As far as a short list of fish that's ok to feed from fillets, that's usually available in grocery stores......trout (freshwater) and salmon are both ok to give to garters.....f/t or fresh.
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    Re: Fish

    Quote Originally Posted by aSnakeLovinBabe View Post
    My garters are fed as follows:

    Also, never feed garters fish that has been frozen/thawed, and do not boil or cook fish prior to feeding. This will destroy much of the nutritional content of the meat.
    So it’s rare the you feed your snake salmon or tilapia? I mean fresh caught anything is hard to come by without any expense attached.
    The local super market taunts fresh fish but is really flash frozen the shipped to the consumer.
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    Re: Fish

    Quote Originally Posted by brain View Post
    So it’s rare the you feed your snake salmon or tilapia? I mean fresh caught anything is hard to come by without any expense attached.
    The local super market taunts fresh fish but is really flash frozen the shipped to the consumer.

    That's a funny thing about public forums, as our education and opinions change, the past is there to haunt us.

    I too have said things long ago, cast in stone forever to be referenced and pointed out later.

    Tilapia and Salmon are very good garter food.

    I had to troll back to find where this quote originated, and I'm sure rosies are out now (no longer fed) I know I ceased to use them a while back.

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    Re: Fish

    I can do pictures to if a list is made.

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    Re: Fish

    this page has really well presented info on the matter

    Article: Thiaminase – What it is, why you care
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    Re: Fish

    I finally got a name for the big minnows I've been getting at the bait shop-- silverback minnows. But not sure if that's the bait store name or really what they're called. Need to go look 'em up. I sure hope they're a good feed minnow, the snakes love them!

    I think the idea of a list with pics is a good one! :-)
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