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    Unhappy bad news!!!!

    well the to be california red spotted mother did not produce any babies, instead she had 21 jelly bean looking things that quickly dried up, this is a big disapointment, does anyone know what would cause this???

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    Re: bad news!!!!

    Sorry to hear your bad news, Ben. There could be several possible causes, was it the female's first time? Is she quite young?
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    Re: bad news!!!!

    im pretty sure the guy i got her from said she was breed before, she is pretty big. i have a maritme garter that is about to pop, i hope everything goes good with her.

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    Fingers crossed for the Maritime, Ben. I've heard that stress and too high temperatures can cause this too. Could that be possible?
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    really sorry o hear about that Ben. wish you all the best with the Maritime. xxx

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    Sorry to hear that Ben....really sucks. I"ve also heard that too high temps. can cause this. A lot of people keep their gravid garters like other colubrids, but it seems they do better with slightly cooler temps. or at least a means of getting to a relatively cool spot in the tank. Best of luck with you T.s.pallidulus.....keep me posted on her progress, I'd be VERY interested in some babies since my Maritime search seems to have gone south. Do you have any pics of the mama to be?

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    Re: bad news!!!!

    the females eggs didnt get fertilized...produced slugs...my florida blue did that last year...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ssssnakeluvr View Post
    the females eggs didnt get fertilized...produced slugs...my florida blue did that last year...
    I don't really get that, Don. If you keep a lone female and never mate her, she won't produce slugs every year.
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    Oh right, so if they mate but the breeding is unsuccessful that's another cause of slugs?
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    yes....not sure why my western terrestrial threw one....she hadn't bred in the 4 years I had her....as far as I know, the cool down period (brumation) stimulates the egg production and the breeding cycle...whether the sperm are bad or just don't get there I am not sure....

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