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    Do I need a Terranium Liner?

    When using a UTH with a Glass Tank? I'd assume so, because otherwise the snake might burn itself on the glass, but if I'm also using a thermostat, do I need the liner? I'm only asking because I can't really ever feel the heat through it(Though I'm going to double-check this as soon as the UTH warms up).

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    Re: Do I need a Terranium Liner?

    The thermostat will prevent the UTH getting hot enough to burn. I've never heard of liners, and I use heatmats under all my glass vivs. Surely if a liner prevented burning it would also prevent enough heat getting through.
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    Re: Do I need a Terranium Liner?

    Heat mat?

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    Re: Do I need a Terranium Liner?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tarzier View Post
    Heat mat?
    Probably what you call UTH. Google is your friend
    Personally, I use these: HabiStat Heat Mat. 150mmx280mm. 7 Watts.
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    Re: Do I need a Terranium Liner?

    I use these:
    Terra Heatmat - Heatel.nl - Electrical heating

    Safe to use with plastic enclosures and without thermostat. Never gets hot enough to burn anything, but on the other hand, it's useless with more than 1cm of substrate.

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    Re: Do I need a Terranium Liner?

    Those are pretty cool, I use something similar, though I'm not exactly sure which brand(s) they are. They do get pretty hot though, so for my current snake, I use a thermostat with it. However, I have decided to use the Liner for my Glass Tank and forego using a thermostat... At least at the moment, I'm currently testing how warm the liner gets in that area, although so far it's become a nice basking spot just like the one I'm currently using. Granted, I'm not exactly sure if my thermometer is correct or not, because it says the spot is at 101 degrees F, but it doesn't feel that warm.

    By the way, I have a question and it's completely unrelated to my original one; How do I cool an enclosure? It's been really warm here the last few days, which for my current snake is perfect, however, I don't think it will be for a snake I plan on purchasing. Are Florida Blues ok with 80+ degree temps?

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    Re: Do I need a Terranium Liner?

    I would recommend you continue using a thermostat. Not using one lets the heat element run at full output. This reduces its life and could cause it to over heat.
    This is dangerous for the snakes, liner or not.
    This is the thermostat I use. I buy them off Amazon.


    Amazon.com: Hydrofarm MTPRTC Digital Thermostat For Heat Mats: Patio, Lawn & Garden
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    Re: Do I need a Terranium Liner?

    That looks nice, much nicer than the one I currently have. I'm curious, does that one shut off the heat mat when it reaches the temp you have it set at and then turn it back on when it goes down to a certain point, or does it just control the power to keep it at that? My current one does the former, on top of that, the temp probe is huge, that one looks much sleeker and easier to move around and use.

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    Re: Do I need a Terranium Liner?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tarzier View Post
    That looks nice, much nicer than the one I currently have. I'm curious, does that one shut off the heat mat when it reaches the temp you have it set at and then turn it back on when it goes down to a certain point, or does it just control the power to keep it at that? My current one does the former, on top of that, the temp probe is huge, that one looks much sleeker and easier to move around and use.
    I have some of those thermostats myself, and they basically heat until they are a degree or two above the set temperature, then turn off until the temperature falls to two degrees below the set temperature before turning on again.

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    Re: Do I need a Terranium Liner?

    Ah, I wish mine was as reliable as that. As it doesn't show what temperature it's probe is reading, I'm not completely sure how it works. I do know that the UTH gets cold(Or at least, the enclosure side does, and that's the important part) before it turns back on. I'm gonna buy one of those and test it out.

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