What does it mean?

[JodiLeigh]

Hey,

I keep seeing people saying 'het' when talking about breeding

What does this mean?!?!

And if there are any other abbreviations That I may come across that you know?

Always want to learn more! =]

[angrygamer]

I don't know that, they may be referring to 'herp', which people abbreviate for herpetology. They may have just misspelled it.

What context is it used in?

People often say 'viv', as in vivarium.

I'll think of more and post them here.

[JodiLeigh]

I don't know that, they may be referring to 'herp', which people abbreviate for herpetology. They may have just misspelled it.

What context is it used in?

This is what I read it in:

"CB ’09 T.s.sirtalis babies 6 weeks old, possible het for melanistic available now. POA."

Also what does melanistic mean? Albino?

I know the CB is captive bred and the POA is price on application.

Possible het?!?! I just have no idea what that means grrrrr

[angrygamer]

I think it means this:

Het = An abbreviation for heterozygous.

Heterozygous = Possessing two different genes for a given trait. An animal with one mutated, recessive gene still appears normal; its mutated gene can be inherited by future offspring. A co-dominant animal is heterozygous for the dominant form of its mutated gene, yet is different in appearance than both the wild-type and homozygous forms.

found this: Basic Genetic Reptile Vocabulary. (http://livingartreptiles.tripod.com/id62.html)

[JodiLeigh]

I think it means this:

Het = An abbreviation for heterozygous.

Heterozygous = Possessing two different genes for a given trait. An animal with one mutated, recessive gene still appears normal; its mutated gene can be inherited by future offspring. A co-dominant animal is heterozygous for the dominant form of its mutated gene, yet is different in appearance than both the wild-type and homozygous forms.

found this: Basic Genetic Reptile Vocabulary. (http://livingartreptiles.tripod.com/id62.html)

oooow thank you!

I will have a read thew this, pretty cool site you found!

=]

[EasternGirl]

Albinos lack pigmentation, or melanin. Melanistic is the opposite of albinism...it is the development of excessive dark pigmentation. And Travis...you are correct about "het".

[EasternGirl]

That is a cool site you found, Travis...btw.

[JodiLeigh]

Albinos lack pigmentation, or melanin. Melanistic is the opposite of albinism...the development of excessive dark pigmentation. And Travis...you are correct about "het".

I literally just read the melanistic part on that site just as you posted this ha ha

So would you say my Manny is melanistic?

As he doesn't have a lot of red and a lot of other T.s.parietalis' are more light brown-ish colour on their head

Although his belly is still fairly light but it's not the normal yellow-ish colour it's more green?

[aquamentus_11]

when referring to garters, "melanistic" usually means an all-black snake with some light regions on the throat and chin. They are originally from the southern great lakes region of the US.

[JodiLeigh]

when referring to garters, "melanistic" usually means an all-black snake with some light regions on the throat and chin. They are originally from the southern great lakes region of the US.

Arrr ok, I see!

Gosh, I have learned so much from this site and intend to learn so much more!

THANK YOOOOOOOOU for all your help so far

=]

[EasternGirl]

Breeders on the forum often post pics of different types of morphs, here is a melanistic: http://www.thamnophis.com/forum/general-talk/9694-melanistic-eastern.html

[JodiLeigh]

Breeders on the forum often post pics of different types of morphs, here is a melanistic: http://www.thamnophis.com/forum/general-talk/9694-melanistic-eastern.html

Oh wow, that is a amazing looking snake! He/she has lovely grey/blue eyes!

Are they easy to get hold of?

[aquamentus_11]

Oh wow, that is a amazing looking snake! He/she has lovely grey/blue eyes!

Are they easy to get hold of?

yeah, i love this morph. wanted one or a red-sided. i've seen a lot of breeders here with them.

[chris-uk]

Oh wow, that is a amazing looking snake! He/she has lovely grey/blue eyes!

Are they easy to get hold of?

In the UK, not common but easier to find than many. One of the guys who posts every now and then (Scorpion) was selling a pair in the East Midlands last autumn.

[JodiLeigh]

Sorry this is non related but have to point out the fact you now have 999 posts!

What do people mean when they say growing on or grown on when they talk about offspring?

Do they mean they will keep them and sell them once they are adults?!?!

[chris-uk]

Grown on generally means that they are older than the babies that are usually seen for sale. A lot of the time snakes are sold when they are old enough to have shed a few times and established a feeding pattern, so a couple of months is common. Grown on would be an older snakes, but I'd still expect it to be less than a year, I don't think there's a strict definition but maybe a couple of the breeders will chip in with their use of the term.
You may also see people refer to older snakes as "hold backs", which are snakes they've kept hold of to see whether they fit into next year's breeding plans, but then they decide to sell them when they firm up their breeding plans.

Make that 1001 posts now.

[GarterGuy17]

Well my snake ( jade ) her head is actually like green and she is very birght , so they told me she was a northern red sided. I still dont know , and I dont really pay mind as long as I know her species / sub-species im okay :)

[GarterGuy17]

Well my snake ( jade ) her head is actually like green and she is very bright , so they told me she was a northern red sided. I still dont know , and I dont really pay mind as long as I know her species / sub-species im okay :)

[JodiLeigh]

Well my snake ( jade ) her head is actually like green and she is very birght , so they told me she was a northern red sided. I still dont know , and I dont really pay mind as long as I know her species / sub-species im okay :)

Yeah, someone suggested to me that my T.s.parietalis, Manny, was northern so yeah maybe.

[JodiLeigh]

Grown on generally means that they are older than the babies that are usually seen for sale. A lot of the time snakes are sold when they are old enough to have shed a few times and established a feeding pattern, so a couple of months is common. Grown on would be an older snakes, but I'd still expect it to be less than a year, I don't think there's a strict definition but maybe a couple of the breeders will chip in with their use of the term.
You may also see people refer to older snakes as "hold backs", which are snakes they've kept hold of to see whether they fit into next year's breeding plans, but then they decide to sell them when they firm up their breeding plans.

Make that 1001 posts now.

Ar yes I thought something like that and I was just about to ask about 'hold backs' HA HA
So thanks for the preempted answer there!

ANYWAY I will have to go sleep, need to get some rest and will be back on here tomorrow morning

THANKS GUYS night =]

[EasternGirl]

Goodnight. Chris...time to think of a custom title!