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DIRK
02-05-2012, 09:01 AM
Hi at all

after a long time, iīm back with a question.
I think one of my San Francisco garters is gravid.

What do you mean????

guidofatherof5
02-05-2012, 09:05 AM
Looks like there is some significant scale spread on both of those snakes.

DIRK
02-05-2012, 10:57 AM
hi

thats right, i hope that i can get little san franciscos this year. Last year i got only 4 babys and one died minutes after birth in my hands. that was very hard for me..

andycul
02-05-2012, 11:08 AM
Great looking snakes, fingers crossed for lots of litle ones ;)

EasternGirl
02-05-2012, 11:09 AM
Yes...beautiful snakes...hope you have lots of babies this time! I just love San Frans...

DIRK
02-05-2012, 11:26 AM
Thank you all.
I hope so, too.
I will report you.......

greetings from germany

GarterGuy17
02-05-2012, 11:37 AM
I wish I lived in San Francisco just so I could have one :/ Very beautiful

DIRK
02-05-2012, 11:41 AM
hi GarterGuy17

you canīt get San Franciscos in USA, this species ist protected in USA

EasternGirl
02-05-2012, 11:45 AM
Yup....it's illegal to own them here. Federally protected. I wish I had some though...beautiful. And fiesty!

guidofatherof5
02-05-2012, 12:34 PM
hi GarterGuy17

you canīt get San Franciscos in USA, this species ist protected in USA

Species Profile for San Francisco Garter snake (Thamnophis sirtalis tetrataenia)

http://www.fws.gov/sacramento/Outreach/Featured-Stories/SF-Garter-Snake/outreach_featured-stories_sf-garter-snake.htm (http://ecos.fws.gov/speciesProfile/profile/speciesProfile.action?spcode=C002)

EasternGirl
02-05-2012, 03:35 PM
I liked that article in the second link. They should let serious breeders and herpetoculturists own them in limited numbers in the U.S....just my opinion. I know, I know...but it's just my opinion.

guidofatherof5
02-05-2012, 03:39 PM
I liked that article in the second link. They should let serious breeders and herpetoculturists own them in limited numbers in the U.S....just my opinion. I know, I know...but it's just my opinion.

It's a good one Marnie. At this point our Government is doing nothing to help these snakes survive. Even if it is in a captive situation.

EasternGirl
02-05-2012, 04:51 PM
Serious snake lovers may be the only chance these snakes have to survive. They would be better off in captivity with someone who knew how to take care of a snake like that and give it a good life and a fighting chance at survival....considering what they are facing in the wild right now.